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there's a whole fleet of look on the sa

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oh my gosh they're all going against the

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it was basically a cube with inside of

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so this isn't anything that just is

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limited to the united states it's a

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hi everyone and welcome back to that ufo

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podcast a huge month of may kicks off

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with uh i want to say the one and only

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documentary filmmaker of the acclaimed

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hunt for the skinwalker and bob lazar

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area 51 and flying saucers among other

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things mr jeremy corbett jeremy welcome

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to the podcast

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thanks so much for having me on man

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it's been a long time coming jeremy so

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let's get straight into it and and i

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want to know because i've i've seen your

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your documentaries and followed your

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work for the instagram posts and the

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appearances on news networks but how did

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you first get involved in the topic of

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ufos

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yeah well i think like most people i was

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just curious about this mystery right

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it's it's an uncharted territory we are

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all like cartographers we're creating

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maps of like how to engage this

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phenomenon that appears to have been

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with humanity since the beginning of

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recorded human history i mean it's like

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this huge mystery but you know i'm just

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a kid i'm 13 years old they hear on the

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radio the voice of bob lazar george

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knapp and you know i was just listening

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but really it was that it was that

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moment that that bob lazar described the

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propulsion systems of these craft like

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how he said that they work through

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and the thing that really flipped my

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every type of propulsion that we have

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from rockets to roller skates you push

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forward but he described a gravity well

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so he described this idea of like if you

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put a bowling ball on a mattress and you

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the bowling ball falls to your fist you

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that they fall into time and space they

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odd and i i like everybody else i wanted

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to know

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is this guy legit is he telling the

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truth so that's what initially as i like

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to say weaponized my curiosity where i

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look i'm 13 years old this is just

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something i heard on the radio i never

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thought for a second that i would get

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any closer to the truth and

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that it's a curvy road man so so that's

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what sparked my interest but really i

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was a mixed martial athlete that that's

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thought i would ever do my whole life

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and but you know life had other plans

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for me and uh you know that the short of

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little 5d camera that did video for my

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wedding and it was like this thing that

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sudden they would tell me stuff they

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but one day his producer called me

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he says hold for george knapp and then

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piece of advice i'm like yes please and

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hands were all had pain on them i'm like

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this is george knapp and what's so funny

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is he still answers the phone like that

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his iphone this is jordana i'm like now

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great mentor to me as people know and

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and uh i've been able to look at these

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things and meet these people directly

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obviously i've been able to establish

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is if i can do it if i can contribute to

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the ufo knowledge to to writing this map

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right of what we understand now and

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where we're going like literally anybody

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i i will attest to that in two years to

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the deal most of the podcast being

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released like speaking to yourself

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george luella zondo a lot of great names

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you you've carved out quite a name for

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yourself in a relatively short space of

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time as well but what's helped you do

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that like you say was you're you're

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how did you develop that relationship so

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finally got on the phone with you

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what do you do to keep that relationship

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going that you've got to the place you

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yeah well so i had to make a lot of

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inroads to the point where my call was

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worthy of a response you know so i

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didn't wait i didn't ask for permission

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started filming with people i filmed for

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seven years with with john lear you know

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he was i mean if we're talking about the

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godfather of conspiracy the people the

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wildest theories you know the late john

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it all kind of started coming together

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time i had never made a film you know

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that's where opportunity meets your

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ability to to grab hold so

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aspect of this is that you have to take

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steps forward and you need to try to

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find your angle in coming into this

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field to create the opportunity for more

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information rather than just absorbing

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receiving reviewing and listening to

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information you know become active man

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on what people have done

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if they take that energy

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and they put it into proactive work man

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we're going to be in a really good space

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a variety of minds a variety of opinions

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perspectives

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i you know how i developed that

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relationship and those relationships

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you know it's all through trust you you

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you show good work you show genuine

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interest if you are genuinely interested

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so i'd say that's what happened and

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george knapp and i are friends now we

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with bob lazar he would never have a

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movie made about him he didn't want a

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movie made about him it took me years i

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learning how not to break trust i mean i

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sentence actually

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yourself with george because you've been

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almost partners in crime over the last

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associated with the aforementioned bob

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lazar do you remember the first time you

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spoke to bob lazar and what that was

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to know is is he telling the truth

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bob azar a liar or is he an honest guy

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bob lazar and it was a really kind of

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happenstance meeting although i put

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myself in that position where that

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happenstance meeting would would occur

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and what i was doing was i was filming

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and out of the blue you know lazar

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called him and basically said i'm going

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to come over and say hi to my buddy john

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and out of respect because i had been

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filming with john for years i put away

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all my cameras you know i was like

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that's inappropriate but the world had

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only heard besides george knapp and and

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the news reports he did and the small

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amounts it was like you couldn't get a

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lot out of bob he just didn't want

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anything to do with it you know he he

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does not seek the limelight never has

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you know he was kind of the the big foot

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of ufologies hard to film hard to record

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pressure somebody because if what he

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you know this is like just digging up

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all this stuff in his past i mean he had

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been berated by the ufo community for so

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long by the us government he had been

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threatened whether you believe it or not

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it's it's true everybody involved i've

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spoken with everybody involved whether i

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put them on record or not

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he was talking with john and it was just

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this moment and i was like hey man look

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as a fan of like hearing your account

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i haven't decided if i think it's true

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or not true but but i but i'm interested

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in the truth the world could use like

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three more minutes of you talking is it

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possible that you let me bring in my

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cameras push record and just give

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everybody a few more minutes directly

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from you because otherwise the world's

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going to twist it they already have if

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that's obvious right

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just

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try to assassinate your character saying

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all these weird things about you that

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aren't true and he said yes and so that

293
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was the first piece that i put out which

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is that few minutes of bob azar just

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telling you from his perspective

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his account what he experienced and then

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it took many years after that i always

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let him know i was here if he wanted to

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tell his story from his words clear up

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the record and let people hear it from

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him directly and not just through a game

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of telephone and obviously

303
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over time it was not a easy ride it was

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a rough journey

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but uh he let me do it and and the thing

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he let me do

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is

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who he was

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with complete and total access to

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anybody i wanted to speak with like

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literally hand me your phone let me

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start calling people give me that box of

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tapes you know just let me take them and

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digitize them he had zero reservation i

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mean

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zero reservation at that point he says

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okay

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let's do this you want to know the truth

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let's see if we can get there here's

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what i got here's what i know i'm

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curious too if we can prove any of this

322
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the bob lazar story is wonderfully

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documented in area 51 and flying saucers

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it's on netflix seed in the uk and

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multiple streaming services worldwide

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people should check out we don't have

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the time to go into the full story now

328
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but bob lazar's a former engineer

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scientist nuclear physicist all sorts of

330
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weird and wonderful things happened in

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his life

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and he claims to have worked on back

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engineering

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et alien spacecraft at area 51 s4 people

335
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should check that out however

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you've spent some amount amount of time

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with them jeremy do you understand why

338
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there is still a lot of division when it

339
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comes to bob's story

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oh absolutely i understand why there's

341
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still a lot of division if i if i wasn't

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in the position that i am

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or i have talked with everybody again

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99 of it not on camera or on camera but

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not released yeah i would have the same

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questions as most people i mean most

347
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people some people they just want to

348
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dilute you know his uh persona and they

349
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want to try to create something that's

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not true about him

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but the majority of people have

352
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legitimate questions look i wish i could

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answer all of them i i can't and not

354
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that i don't know the information but

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that that's up to bob

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so

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i have spent a lot of time with bob he

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he has become a friend over all of this

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time

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and i'll tell you something that i hope

361
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really strikes people

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i i didn't come into this

363
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you know thinking there was some thing i

364
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want to prove i i went into this just

365
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saying

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is it true

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is bob lazar telling us the truth

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i no longer have the luxury of disbelief

369
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i i don't expect you to i don't expect

370
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everybody else to

371
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what i wanted to do my film was just

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kind of show who he was as a person the

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closer you get to the inner circle of

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friends and family and wife and mom and

375
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dad and everybody with bob lazar as well

376
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as the people that you reach out to that

377
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will speak off record and some are on

378
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record you come to realize that bob

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lazar who he is today

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is somebody that

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tells you the truth he doesn't have time

382
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to lie to you he could have made up a

383
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better story is what he said

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and also i think in some element he he

385
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regrets coming forward with george knapp

386
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in 1989 because it threw his life upside

387
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down

388
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and again whether people want to believe

389
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that or not it's inconsequential to me

390
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because i've seen it firsthand i've been

391
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able to to talk with everybody involved

392
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i i know that the closer i got into

393
00:14:53,509 --> 00:14:49,440
bob's life the more you realize who he

394
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is bob lazar is telling you like it is

395
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he is being straight with you

396
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he did the work he said he did at area

397
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51 site s4

398
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there was there is

399
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a location that used to be active i

400
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don't know if it is now

401
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and he worked on the things that he said

402
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he did

403
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now how we get there in the court of

404
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public opinion that that's up to

405
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everybody else you know we'll see where

406
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that goes

407
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but uh just from a personal perspective

408
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if that means anything to you

409
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you know i set out to find out

410
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is it true

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and it is true

412
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yeah i i can i can understand that i've

413
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sat across from people whether it's

414
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professionally or just personally and

415
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just in speaking to them you get a sense

416
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don't you that human intuition of yeah

417
00:15:40,629 --> 00:15:39,440
they're legitimate no they're not and

418
00:15:42,949 --> 00:15:40,639
i'm not sure

419
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i i personally find elements of bob's

420
00:15:46,389 --> 00:15:43,920
story

421
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fascinating and i definitely believe him

422
00:15:49,670 --> 00:15:48,079
there are elements that i want to

423
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believe and then without further

424
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evidence i have to kind of sit on the

425
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fence

426
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yeah however i want to ask you even

427
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having spent that time and believing bob

428
00:16:01,189 --> 00:15:59,040
are there any elements of his story that

429
00:16:03,269 --> 00:16:01,199
you still find difficult to believe or

430
00:16:05,509 --> 00:16:03,279
fully understand

431
00:16:08,069 --> 00:16:05,519
right so it's really not a matter of

432
00:16:10,389 --> 00:16:08,079
belief for me anymore you know i've been

433
00:16:12,870 --> 00:16:10,399
able to not this wasn't just a sense i

434
00:16:15,670 --> 00:16:12,880
got from bob over the years

435
00:16:18,629 --> 00:16:15,680
i i have so george knapp already did

436
00:16:19,990 --> 00:16:18,639
just an extraordinary amount of work so

437
00:16:23,430 --> 00:16:20,000
did bob

438
00:16:24,629 --> 00:16:23,440
bob was trying to get like los alamos to

439
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admit

440
00:16:29,030 --> 00:16:26,880
his roles and his work there and and

441
00:16:31,269 --> 00:16:29,040
they all i have letters that that bob

442
00:16:33,509 --> 00:16:31,279
wrote to los alamos and got official

443
00:16:36,550 --> 00:16:33,519
responses back just trying to prove the

444
00:16:38,629 --> 00:16:36,560
basics of who he was so for me it's not

445
00:16:41,189 --> 00:16:38,639
a matter of belief anymore it's not a

446
00:16:43,189 --> 00:16:41,199
matter of like reading somebody socially

447
00:16:44,870 --> 00:16:43,199
and trying to see does he seem like he's

448
00:16:47,110 --> 00:16:44,880
legitimate

449
00:16:49,189 --> 00:16:47,120
there are too many aspects of his story

450
00:16:52,230 --> 00:16:49,199
that we can prove

451
00:16:55,509 --> 00:16:52,240
that show if anybody hears those facts

452
00:16:56,949 --> 00:16:55,519
especially from him and then are able to

453
00:16:58,310 --> 00:16:56,959
corroborate those

454
00:17:01,350 --> 00:16:58,320
you don't you know you don't have a leg

455
00:17:02,790 --> 00:17:01,360
to stand on from a point of debunking of

456
00:17:05,750 --> 00:17:02,800
course there

457
00:17:07,669 --> 00:17:05,760
this is called you know lazar land

458
00:17:09,429 --> 00:17:07,679
everything with lazar

459
00:17:15,110 --> 00:17:09,439
is

460
00:17:17,750 --> 00:17:15,120
there's obviously elements that of

461
00:17:19,429 --> 00:17:17,760
individuals that would try to dissuade

462
00:17:22,230 --> 00:17:19,439
you for whatever reason

463
00:17:24,390 --> 00:17:22,240
that that he's being honest with you so

464
00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:24,400
everything on this journey with that

465
00:17:26,870 --> 00:17:25,280
film

466
00:17:29,029 --> 00:17:26,880
has been

467
00:17:30,789 --> 00:17:29,039
you know one step forward two steps back

468
00:17:32,710 --> 00:17:30,799
and then finally you get something you

469
00:17:34,630 --> 00:17:32,720
can sink your teeth into

470
00:17:37,350 --> 00:17:34,640
and look i think this is always going to

471
00:17:40,950 --> 00:17:37,360
be a debate i think until there's this

472
00:17:43,110 --> 00:17:40,960
moment that absolutely vindicates him

473
00:17:45,110 --> 00:17:43,120
this is always going to be a debate

474
00:17:48,230 --> 00:17:45,120
which is kind of exciting i learn new

475
00:17:50,470 --> 00:17:48,240
things every day about about bob from

476
00:17:51,590 --> 00:17:50,480
him and also from the public

477
00:17:54,230 --> 00:17:51,600
you know

478
00:17:57,270 --> 00:17:54,240
there are elements of his story that are

479
00:18:00,789 --> 00:17:57,280
difficult to believe but that does not

480
00:18:02,870 --> 00:18:00,799
mean that they are untrue and so so

481
00:18:04,710 --> 00:18:02,880
there are also aspects that are that are

482
00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:04,720
not yet public

483
00:18:07,510 --> 00:18:06,400
and i think for really good reason i

484
00:18:09,350 --> 00:18:07,520
mean he's

485
00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:09,360
uh been able to show certain things to

486
00:18:13,190 --> 00:18:11,600
certain people that help

487
00:18:16,150 --> 00:18:13,200
validate his story i think he could

488
00:18:18,310 --> 00:18:16,160
fully validate his story if he wanted to

489
00:18:19,990 --> 00:18:18,320
i think he could i know he could

490
00:18:22,630 --> 00:18:20,000
do you foresee that moment of

491
00:18:23,909 --> 00:18:22,640
vindication coming in the future or even

492
00:18:27,270 --> 00:18:23,919
near future

493
00:18:28,549 --> 00:18:27,280
i i don't know like for who like so why

494
00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:28,559
do we vindicate

495
00:18:33,430 --> 00:18:31,120
people is it for us or is it for him

496
00:18:35,909 --> 00:18:33,440
like he has a beautiful life now he

497
00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:35,919
loves where he's at you know he's happy

498
00:18:40,070 --> 00:18:37,760
that people are starting to accept and

499
00:18:42,789 --> 00:18:40,080
hear his story on a mass popular culture

500
00:18:45,270 --> 00:18:42,799
scale but he's not happy for himself

501
00:18:46,310 --> 00:18:45,280
he's happy that the information is now

502
00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:46,320
out

503
00:18:50,470 --> 00:18:48,400
to people that can really start to

504
00:18:51,430 --> 00:18:50,480
understand it so

505
00:18:54,230 --> 00:18:51,440
you know

506
00:18:57,029 --> 00:18:54,240
i do believe that there that story has

507
00:19:00,150 --> 00:18:57,039
yet to be written there is more and and

508
00:19:01,990 --> 00:19:00,160
i do believe that there will be other

509
00:19:05,190 --> 00:19:02,000
elements of vindication

510
00:19:06,470 --> 00:19:05,200
for bob lazar i'm sure of that

511
00:19:09,350 --> 00:19:06,480
however

512
00:19:11,669 --> 00:19:09,360
the motivation for that you know who who

513
00:19:14,950 --> 00:19:11,679
is it coming from is is it the public's

514
00:19:16,549 --> 00:19:14,960
curiosity or is it from bob himself i i

515
00:19:19,350 --> 00:19:16,559
think bob is uh

516
00:19:21,350 --> 00:19:19,360
fine with whatever you believe

517
00:19:23,669 --> 00:19:21,360
well that that story we're going to come

518
00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:23,679
back to bob and listen our questions um

519
00:19:26,870 --> 00:19:25,280
but like you say there's a story for bob

520
00:19:29,510 --> 00:19:26,880
lazar that one day might be written in

521
00:19:31,510 --> 00:19:29,520
the form of a movie and hollywood itself

522
00:19:33,430 --> 00:19:31,520
has a huge influence at cinema

523
00:19:36,310 --> 00:19:33,440
television whatever you want to call it

524
00:19:38,549 --> 00:19:36,320
on the public perception of ufos

525
00:19:40,070 --> 00:19:38,559
what sort of role do you see hollywood

526
00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:40,080
tv playing

527
00:19:44,230 --> 00:19:42,240
in this disclosure process or whatever

528
00:19:45,909 --> 00:19:44,240
you want to call it

529
00:19:48,950 --> 00:19:45,919
yeah well

530
00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:48,960
we have this incredible opportunity now

531
00:19:53,029 --> 00:19:51,600
as filmmakers or even aspiring

532
00:19:55,350 --> 00:19:53,039
filmmakers

533
00:19:57,750 --> 00:19:55,360
and even you know with with podcasts and

534
00:19:59,750 --> 00:19:57,760
written form information is instantly

535
00:20:01,430 --> 00:19:59,760
created and generated and pushed out to

536
00:20:02,470 --> 00:20:01,440
the whole world at all time and

537
00:20:04,230 --> 00:20:02,480
everybody can

538
00:20:07,029 --> 00:20:04,240
pick through it with a fine-tooth comb

539
00:20:09,510 --> 00:20:07,039
using mr google so it's a really

540
00:20:12,630 --> 00:20:09,520
exciting time to be a creative person to

541
00:20:15,430 --> 00:20:12,640
be an artist to be a filmmaker

542
00:20:18,149 --> 00:20:15,440
i i think that film itself is one of the

543
00:20:21,990 --> 00:20:18,159
most powerful mediums it has been

544
00:20:24,549 --> 00:20:22,000
powerful in my life to be able to hear

545
00:20:26,549 --> 00:20:24,559
stories but also tell stories

546
00:20:27,510 --> 00:20:26,559
visually and whatnot

547
00:20:29,990 --> 00:20:27,520
so

548
00:20:31,830 --> 00:20:30,000
there's a real responsibility in a way

549
00:20:34,149 --> 00:20:31,840
with documentary work

550
00:20:35,990 --> 00:20:34,159
to to get it right and to to move the

551
00:20:37,990 --> 00:20:36,000
needle forward

552
00:20:41,270 --> 00:20:38,000
there seems to be

553
00:20:42,390 --> 00:20:41,280
this great opportunity that we can all

554
00:20:44,870 --> 00:20:42,400
seize

555
00:20:47,830 --> 00:20:44,880
in trying to put information forward in

556
00:20:50,310 --> 00:20:47,840
that medium and i enjoy it i love

557
00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:50,320
filmmaking i am so inspired by

558
00:20:52,710 --> 00:20:51,520
filmmaking

559
00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:52,720
so

560
00:20:57,669 --> 00:20:55,440
if we get this information whatever it

561
00:20:59,909 --> 00:20:57,679
might be with about ufos and whatnot

562
00:21:01,430 --> 00:20:59,919
into tv shows into movies and podcasts

563
00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:01,440
into newsprint

564
00:21:06,870 --> 00:21:04,640
that starts the conversation so we have

565
00:21:09,430 --> 00:21:06,880
the ultimate power

566
00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:09,440
we really do as individuals as creative

567
00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:11,760
individuals we have the ultimate power

568
00:21:16,950 --> 00:21:14,320
now to tell our story or to tell the

569
00:21:19,590 --> 00:21:16,960
story of others so i'm very hopeful

570
00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:19,600
that we can use you know the medium of

571
00:21:24,630 --> 00:21:22,480
film to really inspire people

572
00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:24,640
do you see that medium being detrimental

573
00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:26,640
at all depending on how

574
00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:29,600
it's portrayed and how ufos how 80s how

575
00:21:34,149 --> 00:21:32,320
aliens how their rivals you know

576
00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:34,159
anything any parts of that movie can be

577
00:21:39,990 --> 00:21:36,960
detrimental to the subject

578
00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:40,000
yeah so obviously you can use any medium

579
00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:42,880
that has power for negative or for good

580
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:44,480
you can use it as propaganda

581
00:21:48,230 --> 00:21:45,840
you can use it to

582
00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:48,240
twist public awareness

583
00:21:53,830 --> 00:21:51,360
to alter consensus reality so that's why

584
00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:53,840
i said there is a responsibility in it

585
00:22:00,310 --> 00:21:56,480
if it depends what you're trying to say

586
00:22:03,350 --> 00:22:00,320
so yeah obviously in cinema there are

587
00:22:04,310 --> 00:22:03,360
things that can be detrimental however

588
00:22:06,789 --> 00:22:04,320
uh

589
00:22:08,870 --> 00:22:06,799
back to the opportunity

590
00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:08,880
it really depends on the person that's

591
00:22:12,549 --> 00:22:11,440
making the content that's editing the

592
00:22:14,070 --> 00:22:12,559
content

593
00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:14,080
what it what is the agenda what is the

594
00:22:19,590 --> 00:22:16,080
goal right now we've seen in cinema

595
00:22:22,230 --> 00:22:19,600
mostly aggressive ets right this idea

596
00:22:24,870 --> 00:22:22,240
that you know independence day style

597
00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:24,880
invasion and we've got great movies like

598
00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:28,320
et or close encounters but but even

599
00:22:33,029 --> 00:22:30,480
those they they create these indelible

600
00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:33,039
images in our mind and then you know we

601
00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:34,720
need to uh society look at that and

602
00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:36,480
start asking questions but i look it's

603
00:22:42,230 --> 00:22:40,480
fun creating cinema is fun this is so

604
00:22:45,029 --> 00:22:42,240
cool when you can share and show people

605
00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:45,039
what it is that you've uh built and i i

606
00:22:48,310 --> 00:22:46,559
think there's more opportunity than

607
00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:48,320
there is detriment

608
00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:50,640
do you think hollywood in your opinion

609
00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:53,280
plays an active role in in the potential

610
00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:55,679
disclosure process rumors where steven

611
00:22:59,110 --> 00:22:57,440
spielberg had an inside knowledge

612
00:23:02,230 --> 00:22:59,120
creating close encounters of the third

613
00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:02,240
kind with the look of the the ufos the

614
00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:04,320
movement and even the little grey beings

615
00:23:09,909 --> 00:23:06,400
themselves have you got any inside

616
00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:14,070
yeah well well clearly there is uh

617
00:23:19,190 --> 00:23:17,120
consulting that is done with certain

618
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:19,200
filmmakers and the films that they're

619
00:23:24,789 --> 00:23:22,559
creating so i happen to know personally

620
00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:24,799
that liaisons from the united states

621
00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:28,000
navy worked directly with uh james

622
00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:30,320
cameron on a number of his movies i

623
00:23:35,590 --> 00:23:32,320
actually know some of the people that

624
00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:35,600
were involved in um

625
00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:38,000
kind of influence not influencing but

626
00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:40,400
educating and bringing in elements into

627
00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:42,480
these films like very famously and this

628
00:23:48,230 --> 00:23:44,480
is something that twitter gets all they

629
00:23:49,990 --> 00:23:48,240
get all wrong but uh this idea that in

630
00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:50,000
close encounters there was this hand

631
00:23:54,630 --> 00:23:51,840
scanner that lazar

632
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:54,640
used it's exact same hand scanner this

633
00:24:01,510 --> 00:23:57,520
is uh it was an actual product that was

634
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:01,520
used mostly at area 52 but widespread on

635
00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:04,480
the nellis air force base at the time

636
00:24:09,110 --> 00:24:06,480
and it was brought into that movie when

637
00:24:11,430 --> 00:24:09,120
in like this flash second to show

638
00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:11,440
i you know look the the people say oh

639
00:24:15,909 --> 00:24:13,200
that's where bob saw he must have saw it

640
00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:15,919
in that movie you know nobody recognized

641
00:24:20,789 --> 00:24:17,760
what was going on in that movie until

642
00:24:23,669 --> 00:24:20,799
way later when i released my film but

643
00:24:26,870 --> 00:24:23,679
there's way more to it the revelation of

644
00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:26,880
that was that this hand scanner was

645
00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:29,520
indeed and now we know and has been

646
00:24:35,029 --> 00:24:32,640
proved that it was in use at the nellis

647
00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:35,039
air force base at the time bob lazar

648
00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:36,640
said it wasn't just something that was

649
00:24:41,190 --> 00:24:38,480
picked out of a movie this is something

650
00:24:43,269 --> 00:24:41,200
that was actually used on base in very

651
00:24:45,830 --> 00:24:43,279
top secret programs and i've spoken to a

652
00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:45,840
number of people that had to use it and

653
00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:47,520
also a number of people that never saw

654
00:24:51,909 --> 00:24:49,120
it because they weren't in those

655
00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:51,919
programs so that's an example of this

656
00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:55,200
seeding of information that is goes into

657
00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:57,039
movies you know and this is something

658
00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:59,360
that you will see in big budget

659
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:01,200
productions where they do have

660
00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:03,679
consultants intelligence consultants

661
00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:06,480
from our military and armed services

662
00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:09,039
so yeah i think there's like easter eggs

663
00:25:13,029 --> 00:25:11,440
everywhere when it comes to film and

664
00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:13,039
ufos

665
00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:15,840
i asked luis elizondo what his favorite

666
00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:18,000
ufo movie was you know given what he

667
00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:20,400
knows and he said at the time he'd only

668
00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:22,080
just recently seen it but he thought

669
00:25:26,310 --> 00:25:24,400
close encounters of the third kind was

670
00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:26,320
was pretty accurate in terms of certain

671
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:28,480
things that he saw within that film have

672
00:25:32,390 --> 00:25:30,480
you got an opinion on given who the

673
00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:32,400
people you've spoken to the sources you

674
00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:34,480
have any movie you've seen by your

675
00:25:38,710 --> 00:25:37,520
friend hmm that's that's pretty close to

676
00:25:41,830 --> 00:25:38,720
the bone

677
00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:41,840
oh i know for sure the abyss is a movie

678
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:44,960
that was uh highly informed by the

679
00:25:49,029 --> 00:25:47,200
actual information we have about uh the

680
00:25:51,269 --> 00:25:49,039
ufo phenomenon

681
00:25:53,269 --> 00:25:51,279
i just watched that again in the la the

682
00:25:55,110 --> 00:25:53,279
last few months

683
00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:55,120
anything particular that stands out for

684
00:26:00,230 --> 00:25:57,200
you within that movie

685
00:26:02,470 --> 00:26:00,240
well i i think generally speaking that

686
00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:02,480
there are

687
00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:05,760
or there is a lot of ufo activity that

688
00:26:12,549 --> 00:26:08,240
comes in and out of our oceans this is

689
00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:12,559
something that is true and so there's

690
00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:15,760
an element to that film that is edging

691
00:26:20,950 --> 00:26:18,960
upon a reality that's super important

692
00:26:23,830 --> 00:26:20,960
which is that if these are trans medium

693
00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:23,840
vehicles you know descending from above

694
00:26:28,390 --> 00:26:26,559
our uh atmosphere down into our

695
00:26:30,549 --> 00:26:28,400
atmosphere and then as transmedia

696
00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:30,559
vehicles going down into the water this

697
00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:32,640
is something that is widely known by

698
00:26:37,590 --> 00:26:35,200
those who are involved in uap and ufo

699
00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:37,600
projects for the united states military

700
00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:40,960
that craft do descend and ascend

701
00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:43,440
uh from the water

702
00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:45,120
uh in

703
00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:47,120
numerous places

704
00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:48,320
okay

705
00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:50,480
curious on that one why do you think

706
00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:52,559
these objects with the leaning recently

707
00:26:57,190 --> 00:26:54,559
being that there's potentially a lot of

708
00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:57,200
activity in the water catalina islands

709
00:26:59,909 --> 00:26:58,480
is one of those locations a lot of

710
00:27:02,230 --> 00:26:59,919
people speak of

711
00:27:03,909 --> 00:27:02,240
but these objects are also tracked going

712
00:27:06,310 --> 00:27:03,919
into the atmosphere and above and going

713
00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:06,320
into space why do you think do you have

714
00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:08,720
an opinion these objects seem to be in

715
00:27:15,029 --> 00:27:12,159
space then they are then under water

716
00:27:17,110 --> 00:27:15,039
right so we're kind of moving to a much

717
00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:17,120
larger location which is

718
00:27:22,870 --> 00:27:19,200
what you know where do these craft come

719
00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:22,880
from have they been here this whole time

720
00:27:27,909 --> 00:27:26,000
are they terrestrial but in some way

721
00:27:30,149 --> 00:27:27,919
some sort of breakaway civilization

722
00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:30,159
technology that we have somehow lost

723
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:32,159
have they been here with us all along

724
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:33,600
are they interdimensional or are they

725
00:27:37,269 --> 00:27:35,760
intra temple or the extra

726
00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:37,279
extraterrestrial i mean it's like

727
00:27:41,590 --> 00:27:39,360
there's so many i don't know

728
00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:41,600
the answer maybe all of them are correct

729
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:43,679
i don't know the answers to that

730
00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:46,320
uh however

731
00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:50,080
this idea of how they are descending

732
00:27:53,830 --> 00:27:52,000
let's say with the tic tac ufo case from

733
00:27:55,990 --> 00:27:53,840
80 000 feet down to sea level without a

734
00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:56,000
sonic boom like that

735
00:28:00,149 --> 00:27:58,320
right how is that happening

736
00:28:02,870 --> 00:28:00,159
the movement of the tic tac how is that

737
00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:02,880
happening all of that is related to this

738
00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:05,360
the craft themselves

739
00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:07,760
when they have been analyzed

740
00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:09,440
they do

741
00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:12,960
typically have some sort of

742
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:15,120
seating arrangement they they have they

743
00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:17,840
are occupied often and so this is

744
00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:19,440
something that makes you think okay

745
00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:21,360
people are sitting in there and they're

746
00:28:26,630 --> 00:28:23,919
traveling they're also designed with the

747
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:26,640
propulsion systems where they could be

748
00:28:31,590 --> 00:28:29,760
interstellar so what does that even mean

749
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:31,600
if you have gravity wave amplifiers

750
00:28:37,029 --> 00:28:34,480
right so what that means is they can

751
00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:37,039
travel large distances so all of this

752
00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:39,200
kind of adds up to the idea they may be

753
00:28:43,909 --> 00:28:41,760
coming from somewhere else

754
00:28:46,710 --> 00:28:43,919
and that we can see that by the the

755
00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:46,720
actual design of the craft

756
00:28:52,070 --> 00:28:49,279
uh with that said

757
00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:52,080
we don't really know definitively

758
00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:55,440
however that scan volume of this by one

759
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:57,360
radar that caught him at 80 000 feet

760
00:29:02,470 --> 00:28:59,840
that's the height of the scan volume i

761
00:29:04,549 --> 00:29:02,480
happen to know that there are other

762
00:29:07,029 --> 00:29:04,559
visual reconnaissance systems that were

763
00:29:10,870 --> 00:29:07,039
picking up these tic tac ufos for about

764
00:29:13,510 --> 00:29:10,880
nine days and that these other systems

765
00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:13,520
higher fidelity we're able to capture

766
00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:14,320
them

767
00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:16,399
not descending from 80 000 feet but

768
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:19,120
ascending or descending from above

769
00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:20,880
so it makes you wonder where are they

770
00:29:25,029 --> 00:29:22,880
coming from right

771
00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:25,039
yeah i believe some of the rumors are

772
00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:26,640
that there are some systems up and down

773
00:29:29,190 --> 00:29:28,000
the coast that track missiles

774
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:29,200
potentially coming in and out of the

775
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:31,520
atmosphere that may have picked up some

776
00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:33,840
of those objects coming in

777
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:36,480
that is definitively correct

778
00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:37,360
um

779
00:29:42,149 --> 00:29:39,360
on on those events you talk about the

780
00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:42,159
nimitz the princeton the you leaked not

781
00:29:45,269 --> 00:29:43,440
leaked but you

782
00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:45,279
provided us footage that was given to

783
00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:47,840
you anonymously from the omaha the

784
00:29:52,230 --> 00:29:50,720
russell which was pretty convincing so

785
00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:52,240
there's a few questions i've got for you

786
00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:54,640
on those first off you did say on coast

787
00:29:58,710 --> 00:29:56,880
to coast on the 27th of march that more

788
00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:58,720
footage was coming out

789
00:30:02,310 --> 00:30:00,480
when can we expect more footage to be

790
00:30:05,029 --> 00:30:02,320
made available

791
00:30:07,269 --> 00:30:05,039
okay so

792
00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:07,279
let let's talk about that footage for a

793
00:30:12,230 --> 00:30:09,520
moment so i obtained

794
00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:12,240
and released right from from information

795
00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:14,320
that was given to me footage that i

796
00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:18,399
validated i made sure that that i

797
00:30:23,269 --> 00:30:20,159
looked at the information i checked with

798
00:30:25,830 --> 00:30:23,279
multiple sources i went deep to make

799
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:25,840
sure this is credible information again

800
00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:28,320
it was then confirmed by our pentagon in

801
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:30,240
an unusual move remember it was like

802
00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:31,840
three of my four videos they confirmed

803
00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:33,440
and all of a sudden on the last one they

804
00:30:39,750 --> 00:30:36,880
didn't there's a reason for that right

805
00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:39,760
but uh to your original question which i

806
00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:41,600
i hear all the time like

807
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:43,919
it do you have more footage and are you

808
00:30:48,149 --> 00:30:46,240
gonna release it i've already said i

809
00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:48,159
have a lot more footage that i've just

810
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:50,399
started releasing and that yes i am

811
00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:53,440
going to now some people get upset

812
00:30:56,870 --> 00:30:54,960
what is the delay

813
00:31:00,310 --> 00:30:56,880
well look there's a couple things first

814
00:31:02,149 --> 00:31:00,320
of all this is a very modern case that

815
00:31:04,389 --> 00:31:02,159
we're talking about and and the footage

816
00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:04,399
is not just from this case but a lot of

817
00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:05,840
the footage that i think is very

818
00:31:09,389 --> 00:31:06,960
important

819
00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:09,399
could be from active war zones from

820
00:31:15,269 --> 00:31:12,480
unacknowledged bases

821
00:31:16,630 --> 00:31:15,279
with agencies that i can't just for you

822
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:16,640
know look i'd like to continue doing

823
00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:18,320
this i don't want to cross the line

824
00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:20,559
legally and i do definitely not want to

825
00:31:25,509 --> 00:31:22,799
go to jail for something so

826
00:31:28,549 --> 00:31:25,519
this is something that i need to be sure

827
00:31:29,509 --> 00:31:28,559
that i can release these responsibly to

828
00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:29,519
the public

829
00:31:35,269 --> 00:31:32,240
also i need to make sure to protect

830
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:35,279
sources that is a number one even if a

831
00:31:38,950 --> 00:31:37,039
source doesn't protect themselves a lot

832
00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:38,960
of the people that i speak with are

833
00:31:43,509 --> 00:31:41,519
still active the majority of people i

834
00:31:45,430 --> 00:31:43,519
speak where they're still active so the

835
00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:45,440
whole idea here is how do you do

836
00:31:49,509 --> 00:31:46,960
something responsibly socially

837
00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:49,519
responsibly but provide the world

838
00:31:54,149 --> 00:31:51,919
something that then will move the ball

839
00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:54,159
forward a lot of that is timing a lot of

840
00:31:59,190 --> 00:31:56,480
that is presentation and a lot of that

841
00:32:00,950 --> 00:31:59,200
is making sure taking the time to make

842
00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:00,960
sure that everything you have isn't a

843
00:32:05,509 --> 00:32:03,120
bear trap you know that somebody's not

844
00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:05,519
trying to give you something

845
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:07,919
so that you'll end up uh

846
00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:10,480
you know putting out false information

847
00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:13,200
later as a way to to alter your you know

848
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:14,960
the perception of people of how you that

849
00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:17,519
information all of that is important

850
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:19,679
there's there's a lot of games being

851
00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:21,840
played here so the answer is yes

852
00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:25,200
there is a lot more footage yes i have

853
00:32:32,389 --> 00:32:28,799
that footage yes i will be revealing and

854
00:32:33,909 --> 00:32:32,399
putting out that footage but also yes

855
00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:33,919
i'm gonna make sure it's perfectly

856
00:32:37,029 --> 00:32:34,880
vetted

857
00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:37,039
that it is in the my legal right to do

858
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:39,519
so as a journalist under shield law

859
00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:41,519
and that the individuals

860
00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:42,480
involved

861
00:32:47,110 --> 00:32:45,120
with obtaining and providing me

862
00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:47,120
footage documents whatever

863
00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:48,480
that that's not something that would

864
00:32:51,669 --> 00:32:50,399
blow back on them because that would be

865
00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:51,679
horrible that would be horrible for

866
00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:52,960
everybody and that's not the goal here

867
00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:54,080
the goal here is to move the ball

868
00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:56,640
forward appropriately

869
00:32:59,990 --> 00:32:58,240
touching on one of those reasons that

870
00:33:01,590 --> 00:33:00,000
videos can't be released i know when

871
00:33:02,950 --> 00:33:01,600
speaking to someone who who knows what

872
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:02,960
they're talking about

873
00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:06,240
a recent example would be if the a us

874
00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:09,200
aircraft filmed a uap that's great let's

875
00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:11,600
see the footage however if it's filmed

876
00:33:15,430 --> 00:33:13,360
over russian airspace where that

877
00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:15,440
aircraft was not supposed to be

878
00:33:19,269 --> 00:33:17,440
that's a reason that isn't even related

879
00:33:19,909 --> 00:33:19,279
to the maybe the big 50 foot shining

880
00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:19,919
again

881
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:22,880
you hear about that well yeah

882
00:33:28,389 --> 00:33:26,320
you are you are 100 correct

883
00:33:30,149 --> 00:33:28,399
how did you hear about that

884
00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:30,159
i was just told that location can be a

885
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:32,080
big issue and not necessarily what's on

886
00:33:34,230 --> 00:33:33,360
the footage

887
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:34,240
well

888
00:33:38,789 --> 00:33:36,399
to expand on that a little bit

889
00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:38,799
look i i don't work for the government i

890
00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:41,120
i don't take my cues from the government

891
00:33:45,269 --> 00:33:43,279
i don't have clearances i don't have

892
00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:45,279
ndas right

893
00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:46,080
uh

894
00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:49,279
however sometimes as journalists you are

895
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:52,480
able to again obtain information

896
00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:54,399
maybe things that maybe you shouldn't

897
00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:56,640
see i don't know you know that that's a

898
00:34:00,149 --> 00:33:58,480
gray area because there's certain

899
00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:00,159
specifics where you can look at

900
00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:03,679
something or you can i know them so

901
00:34:07,029 --> 00:34:05,600
there were

902
00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:07,039
numerous

903
00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:10,240
ufos that were filmed

904
00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:12,800
in locations that are sensitive and it's

905
00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:15,200
not even about the ufo but it's it's

906
00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:17,280
about the location so

907
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:19,359
imagine there's a classified briefing

908
00:34:24,790 --> 00:34:21,119
where

909
00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:24,800
ufos are filmed over russian warships

910
00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:26,639
but again like you said

911
00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:28,720
we're not supposed to be there and our

912
00:34:32,069 --> 00:34:30,720
capability to film that is not supposed

913
00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:32,079
to be known

914
00:34:36,869 --> 00:34:33,599
that's a really difficult piece of

915
00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:36,879
footage to get out to the public

916
00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:38,879
one piece of footage that everyone talks

917
00:34:44,470 --> 00:34:41,040
about and wants to know of or once

918
00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:44,480
released is the 23-minute video um

919
00:34:50,069 --> 00:34:46,320
you've no doubt heard about this i would

920
00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:51,990
so i'm gonna pass on that because that's

921
00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:53,679
not something that i consider that i

922
00:34:59,990 --> 00:34:56,800
have direct knowledge on okay

923
00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:00,000
on the video itself what sort of videos

924
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:03,359
could the us government be holding

925
00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:05,760
that can make it so explosive we've

926
00:35:09,910 --> 00:35:07,760
heard about you know 23 minutes of

927
00:35:11,750 --> 00:35:09,920
sci-fi and what sort of things do you

928
00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:11,760
think they may have filmed just in

929
00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:13,599
speaking to sources and such that

930
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:15,760
they're holding back

931
00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:16,960
sure so

932
00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:19,520
first of all they're not holding it back

933
00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:21,599
they're never intending to release it

934
00:35:26,150 --> 00:35:23,920
it's not just holding it back like

935
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:26,160
you know there this is a lot of this

936
00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:28,240
footage is classified because of the

937
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:30,880
weapon systems themselves right so when

938
00:35:34,390 --> 00:35:31,920
you're talking about you know

939
00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:34,400
forward-looking infrared you know

940
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:37,839
flear pods a lot of this information is

941
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:40,000
about our capability

942
00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:43,200
so i i there's no holding back none of

943
00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:45,920
this none of this is coming out unless

944
00:35:50,790 --> 00:35:48,880
the public engages ask questions works

945
00:35:53,109 --> 00:35:50,800
with representative government pushes

946
00:35:55,829 --> 00:35:53,119
forward and for me the biggest thing i

947
00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:55,839
think will come is when people uh

948
00:36:01,589 --> 00:35:58,800
provide me footage that that probably

949
00:36:04,150 --> 00:36:01,599
they shouldn't but again as a journalist

950
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:04,160
i am protected by shield law and i still

951
00:36:07,109 --> 00:36:06,000
need to walk a fine line

952
00:36:08,310 --> 00:36:07,119
but

953
00:36:11,109 --> 00:36:08,320
there is

954
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:11,119
and this is not just from sources

955
00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:13,920
there is high fidelity

956
00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:16,800
imagery of ufos

957
00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:20,160
that can and probably will be put out to

958
00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:22,320
the public in some way

959
00:36:25,829 --> 00:36:23,680
in the future

960
00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:25,839
uh

961
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:29,040
i don't think any one piece of footage

962
00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:30,480
is going to be like the nail in the

963
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:33,680
coffin in public opinion about ufos it

964
00:36:39,829 --> 00:36:36,960
just doesn't work that way not one photo

965
00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:39,839
not one video is going to convince

966
00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:42,640
everybody of the totality of what it is

967
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:44,000
human beings

968
00:36:48,390 --> 00:36:46,000
have been experiencing

969
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:48,400
so this idea that proof

970
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:50,160
for the world is going to come in the

971
00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:54,000
form of a video or a photo it just it

972
00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:56,400
just does not work that way i i don't

973
00:37:01,030 --> 00:36:59,119
see it working that way but

974
00:37:02,390 --> 00:37:01,040
to your point

975
00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:02,400
there is

976
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:04,800
high fidelity imagery from our we have

977
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:06,720
incredible reconnaissance systems not

978
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:08,320
even just the ones that are on board

979
00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:10,560
shifts but we have space based

980
00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:12,400
reconnaissance systems like the

981
00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:15,760
geospatial uh intelligence agency that

982
00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:17,920
is an incredible agency that does pick

983
00:37:22,710 --> 00:37:20,160
up things all the time and they have

984
00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:22,720
incredible optics so

985
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:24,480
i think the most important thing we can

986
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:25,440
get

987
00:37:30,550 --> 00:37:28,560
is corroborative video evidence that

988
00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:30,560
ties directly in

989
00:37:36,470 --> 00:37:33,920
to direct witness testimony now i'll

990
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:36,480
remind you one of the things that george

991
00:37:40,550 --> 00:37:38,720
knapp and i did was provide the world

992
00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:40,560
something they had not had before that

993
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:42,800
they had always been belly aching for

994
00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:44,880
that i as a fan

995
00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:48,320
of the ufo topic i was excited to see

996
00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:51,440
this which is like you have a huge ufo

997
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:53,280
event in 2019

998
00:37:58,950 --> 00:37:56,720
right over a hundred uap were swarming

999
00:38:01,510 --> 00:37:58,960
our navy warships not all of them were

1000
00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:01,520
the same in look and style

1001
00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:04,320
but it was a coordinated effort a sort

1002
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:08,240
of display some would say of power

1003
00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:10,800
but what you have there from what we

1004
00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:13,280
released is not only forward-looking

1005
00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:15,760
infrared fleer footage

1006
00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:18,320
right you also have ir so that's like

1007
00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:20,640
the green video of the

1008
00:38:24,310 --> 00:38:22,800
triangle from angle of observation

1009
00:38:29,349 --> 00:38:24,320
actually pyramid

1010
00:38:31,349 --> 00:38:29,359
and we also have deck footage and radar

1011
00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:31,359
so this is now

1012
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:33,839
corroborative video evidence from a

1013
00:38:36,870 --> 00:38:35,520
known event that got the attention of

1014
00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:36,880
our senate got the tension of our

1015
00:38:40,710 --> 00:38:38,640
congress got the attention the head of

1016
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:40,720
the navy and the head of homeland

1017
00:38:43,990 --> 00:38:42,640
security and department of defense

1018
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:44,000
pentagon everybody was buzzing about

1019
00:38:48,550 --> 00:38:45,599
this right

1020
00:38:51,349 --> 00:38:48,560
all of this footage is corroborative

1021
00:38:53,109 --> 00:38:51,359
video evidence as an example the last

1022
00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:53,119
piece of footage that i put out was from

1023
00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:55,680
the deck of the uss omaha and it was

1024
00:39:01,510 --> 00:38:59,440
just like video footage in inky darkness

1025
00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:01,520
but of lights

1026
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:03,359
so the reason why this footage is

1027
00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:05,440
powerful is because when you see it with

1028
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:06,640
all the others

1029
00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:09,040
you can't just say these are anomalies

1030
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:10,800
or glitches that are in the camera

1031
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:13,440
systems or in the radar systems you now

1032
00:39:17,829 --> 00:39:15,839
have illuminated objects so when you try

1033
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:17,839
to pick things apart to the point of

1034
00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:20,800
absurdity you're going to miss the point

1035
00:39:26,710 --> 00:39:23,359
the point is to look at a again

1036
00:39:27,510 --> 00:39:26,720
corroborative video evidence that will

1037
00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:27,520
link

1038
00:39:31,829 --> 00:39:29,599
with eyewitness testimony but again a

1039
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:31,839
lot of those people are still on active

1040
00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:33,119
deployment

1041
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:34,640
so that's something that you know maybe

1042
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:36,880
it'll take some time but we build the

1043
00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:38,640
case over time

1044
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:40,800
that is the most powerful evidence is

1045
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:42,880
when everything comes together

1046
00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:45,520
and you've got a lot of data

1047
00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:47,680
the the ufo community

1048
00:39:52,950 --> 00:39:50,720
cries out for that data because we we

1049
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:52,960
hear about you know one source

1050
00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:54,960
as an ideal whether it's a picture a

1051
00:39:59,030 --> 00:39:57,200
video a testimony

1052
00:40:01,430 --> 00:39:59,040
you need more to it and here you come

1053
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:01,440
along and you release this information

1054
00:40:05,910 --> 00:40:03,599
and we have multiple data points we have

1055
00:40:09,109 --> 00:40:05,920
the snoopy teams recording through the

1056
00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:09,119
um the scope i'm going to ask you to

1057
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:11,040
talk about that absurdity

1058
00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:12,240
one

1059
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:15,520
why was this not an event of advanced

1060
00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:16,720
drones

1061
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:19,599
buzzing the us navy and two i'll ask you

1062
00:40:23,829 --> 00:40:20,960
to comment on

1063
00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:23,839
why was the image of the pyramid not

1064
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:26,640
just an aircraft that the bokeh as we

1065
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:28,800
now know that word has become infamous

1066
00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:30,400
um was just making it look like a

1067
00:40:33,109 --> 00:40:31,680
triangle

1068
00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:33,119
okay so

1069
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:35,040
you know let's take our time with this

1070
00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:37,200
and let's kind of break it down a little

1071
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:38,400
bit

1072
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:39,760
you did say something at the beginning

1073
00:40:44,950 --> 00:40:42,880
of your question which i thought was

1074
00:40:47,349 --> 00:40:44,960
important to address what was the

1075
00:40:49,829 --> 00:40:47,359
original words you said

1076
00:40:51,910 --> 00:40:49,839
in regards to the ufo community crying

1077
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:51,920
out for data and having more than one

1078
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:53,520
source

1079
00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:58,470
i was roughing that one off the top of

1080
00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:00,720
my head okay sorry about that yeah that

1081
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:02,640
one wasn't written down

1082
00:41:04,870 --> 00:41:03,599
okay

1083
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:04,880
so

1084
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:08,560
have to go back to there was a word you

1085
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:10,000
used and it was really important to

1086
00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:12,480
delineate that that difference there but

1087
00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:14,800
uh okay so let's take this slow so what

1088
00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:16,720
was the first part of your question

1089
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:20,000
yeah so why is this not just an event

1090
00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:22,800
where advanced adversarial drones was

1091
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:24,319
the us navy

1092
00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:27,839
okay right so this idea that these were

1093
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:30,400
just conventional drones or even just

1094
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:33,280
advanced drones you know from what from

1095
00:41:37,510 --> 00:41:35,280
from our own navy or from another

1096
00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:37,520
country or china

1097
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:39,920
okay oh my lord so that is one of the

1098
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:42,079
greatest ridiculous things i've ever

1099
00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:43,680
heard and you also just want to know

1100
00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:46,240
about the mental gymnastics of the uh

1101
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:48,240
debunkers and the crazy absurdity that

1102
00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:49,839
they come up with including the bokeh

1103
00:41:53,190 --> 00:41:52,079
effect which is absolutely ridiculous

1104
00:41:54,150 --> 00:41:53,200
okay

1105
00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:54,160
so

1106
00:41:59,510 --> 00:41:55,920
why these weren't drones i mean there's

1107
00:42:03,430 --> 00:41:59,520
there's a hundred plus reasons but

1108
00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:03,440
the main thing here is we have our navy

1109
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:05,839
first of all i i've talked with numerous

1110
00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:08,160
people on board these ships that had

1111
00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:10,000
direct visual

1112
00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:11,680
on these craft

1113
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:14,000
but also the people that wrote the

1114
00:42:19,030 --> 00:42:17,040
reports and designated the word drone

1115
00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:19,040
plus people that were in charge of

1116
00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:20,800
fighting these ships they're like the

1117
00:42:26,150 --> 00:42:23,040
top dogs on the ships

1118
00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:26,160
the everybody across the board this was

1119
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:27,599
a highly

1120
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:30,720
unusual event series everybody was kind

1121
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:33,040
of scrambling trying to figure out how

1122
00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:34,960
do we deal with this because the the

1123
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:36,240
triangle

1124
00:42:41,030 --> 00:42:38,880
of defense or of kinetic action as they

1125
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:41,040
say to to take kinetic action or

1126
00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:44,319
defensive action it wasn't met intent

1127
00:42:48,630 --> 00:42:46,880
opportunity capability those are the the

1128
00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:48,640
three points and with these unknowns

1129
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:49,920
it's difficult

1130
00:42:53,829 --> 00:42:51,839
to to really discern

1131
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:53,839
what level of defense should be taken

1132
00:42:58,630 --> 00:42:56,319
this is right off the coast of of the

1133
00:43:00,790 --> 00:42:58,640
united states in the pacific ocean

1134
00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:00,800
not far from some of our greatest

1135
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:03,040
military bases you know san diego what

1136
00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:04,000
not

1137
00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:06,880
so this event series was even

1138
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:08,800
admitted to by the head of the navy

1139
00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:11,440
saying we still don't know where these

1140
00:43:16,390 --> 00:43:12,720
were from but i want to i want to

1141
00:43:22,309 --> 00:43:19,270
the information that i put out i did put

1142
00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:22,319
out two slides that were part of a

1143
00:43:26,710 --> 00:43:25,200
classified briefing but were themselves

1144
00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:26,720
not classified and that's really

1145
00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:28,560
important i'm not putting out classified

1146
00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:30,800
information although it was contained

1147
00:43:35,430 --> 00:43:33,040
within a classified briefing what i put

1148
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:35,440
out was not classified

1149
00:43:41,109 --> 00:43:38,960
so if you read those slides like one of

1150
00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:41,119
the things says triangular by angle of

1151
00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:43,599
observation but understand this is part

1152
00:43:49,349 --> 00:43:46,400
i'll say of a presentation

1153
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:49,359
that was classified now if

1154
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:52,079
journalists will be able to see

1155
00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:54,880
this presentation and to read associated

1156
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:57,760
documentation or whatever

1157
00:44:02,390 --> 00:43:59,760
these craft

1158
00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:02,400
over the uss russell

1159
00:44:09,190 --> 00:44:06,079
were described as pyramid in shape in

1160
00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:09,200
fact there was a whole section

1161
00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:11,359
trying to figure out

1162
00:44:17,829 --> 00:44:14,640
what is ours what craft might have that

1163
00:44:21,349 --> 00:44:17,839
signature that is ours definitively

1164
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:21,359
anybody that has access to classified

1165
00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:24,640
servers who can find these

1166
00:44:29,589 --> 00:44:26,800
presentations i'll say

1167
00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:29,599
it is absolutely clear to them

1168
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:31,280
that not only were these pyramid in

1169
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:33,680
shape this is how it was described

1170
00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:35,760
but additionally

1171
00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:38,160
everything we have in the united states

1172
00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:40,960
military arsenal was ruled out there was

1173
00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:44,240
an extensive investigation done into

1174
00:44:50,150 --> 00:44:46,960
what we have and specifically one of the

1175
00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:50,160
sensitivities is the area the area where

1176
00:44:53,829 --> 00:44:52,240
this is filmed a lot of that information

1177
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:53,839
will never come out because there are

1178
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:55,920
sensitive installations all around this

1179
00:45:00,390 --> 00:44:57,440
area

1180
00:45:02,390 --> 00:45:00,400
so these are not ours okay that's first

1181
00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:02,400
of all about the drone thing if there

1182
00:45:06,630 --> 00:45:04,800
were our drones and were doing then then

1183
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:06,640
none of this would have happened none of

1184
00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:08,880
this and if somebody saw a black project

1185
00:45:12,870 --> 00:45:10,800
they would have been debriefed they

1186
00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:12,880
would have been signed ndas and and that

1187
00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:14,079
would have been the end of it you never

1188
00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:16,000
would have heard about it

1189
00:45:19,990 --> 00:45:18,480
additionally where did they

1190
00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:20,000
come from

1191
00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:22,319
like who launched a hundred plus drones

1192
00:45:28,069 --> 00:45:25,200
on ten plus of our navy warships

1193
00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:28,079
who did that where did they launch from

1194
00:45:32,230 --> 00:45:30,400
what are the capabilities

1195
00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:32,240
how how long is the battery life with

1196
00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:34,480
those bright lights

1197
00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:36,160
and then where they did they descend

1198
00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:38,640
back to all of this was intensely

1199
00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:40,000
investigated

1200
00:45:43,270 --> 00:45:42,480
they cannot figure this out

1201
00:45:45,430 --> 00:45:43,280
so

1202
00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:45,440
the idea that china would come in with

1203
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:48,319
some version of a dji drone or even

1204
00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:49,680
something more

1205
00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:51,280
you know powerful

1206
00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:55,680
it's absolutely 100 percent absurd it is

1207
00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:57,599
absurd to the point of i don't know

1208
00:46:00,950 --> 00:45:59,599
what's a word greater than absurd

1209
00:46:02,230 --> 00:46:00,960
ridiculous

1210
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:02,240
so

1211
00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:03,920
additionally the the flight

1212
00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:05,520
characteristics

1213
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:07,520
and the the kind of illumination of

1214
00:46:12,230 --> 00:46:10,560
these things so i doubt people have but

1215
00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:12,240
if you've talked with any direct

1216
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:15,680
eyewitnesses like i have right

1217
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:18,240
no rotors no props

1218
00:46:24,150 --> 00:46:20,800
no sound

1219
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:24,160
also there it's reported to me directly

1220
00:46:29,349 --> 00:46:27,440
that from let's say the uss russell that

1221
00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:29,359
some of these had unique flight

1222
00:46:34,470 --> 00:46:31,680
characteristics so you look at these

1223
00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:34,480
uh images of the briefing that i

1224
00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:36,960
released and they give it to you word

1225
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:38,400
for word

1226
00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:39,760
triangular

1227
00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:41,920
by angle of observation so why did they

1228
00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:44,079
say by angle of observation because

1229
00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:45,599
they're telling you what you're seeing

1230
00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:47,200
right there on those slides and that

1231
00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:48,160
video

1232
00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:50,319
but indeed it was picked up and

1233
00:46:55,030 --> 00:46:53,359
understood and observed to be pyramidal

1234
00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:55,040
in shape

1235
00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:58,560
so i'm not gonna uh be able to give you

1236
00:47:02,390 --> 00:47:00,960
definitive proof today

1237
00:47:04,390 --> 00:47:02,400
that that's what all the classified

1238
00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:04,400
briefings said i'm not gonna be able to

1239
00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:06,880
give you definitive proof today

1240
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:09,839
that that's what the eyewitnesses said

1241
00:47:13,990 --> 00:47:11,520
however i think in the future we will

1242
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:14,000
get that now also remember when you're

1243
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:15,760
looking through flear

1244
00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:17,920
and you have footage of what looks like

1245
00:47:23,190 --> 00:47:20,640
a you know spherical or egg-shaped

1246
00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:23,200
object that does appear to descend into

1247
00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:25,040
the water look these these are estimated

1248
00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:28,160
to be about 12 to 14 feet in diameter

1249
00:47:31,910 --> 00:47:29,760
with flear

1250
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:31,920
forward-looking infrared it's a thermal

1251
00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:34,480
signature so if you've ever used flir

1252
00:47:38,549 --> 00:47:37,760
which i have high grade flare you can

1253
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:38,559
see

1254
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:50,000
totality of the shape

1255
00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:52,319
of those objects

1256
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:54,720
that's that's what it looks like

1257
00:47:58,950 --> 00:47:56,720
and so you have to understand the type

1258
00:48:01,510 --> 00:47:58,960
of camera that's being used and what it

1259
00:48:05,270 --> 00:48:01,520
is you should see at that distance when

1260
00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:05,280
things are moving accelerating stopping

1261
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:07,839
it is believed that object is trans

1262
00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:09,760
medium and then it is also believed that

1263
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:11,680
that object that was captured on film

1264
00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:13,040
which again there were

1265
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:15,200
dozens of around that ship but there was

1266
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:17,040
hundreds in total

1267
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:19,680
descended into the water and they even

1268
00:48:23,870 --> 00:48:21,839
dispatch a submarine to look for

1269
00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:23,880
wreckage or the craft itself and

1270
00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:26,000
unsuccessfully and again that's

1271
00:48:30,069 --> 00:48:28,720
something that i i know and reported on

1272
00:48:32,230 --> 00:48:30,079
so

1273
00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:32,240
when you're looking at the totality of

1274
00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:34,880
of this event what we know

1275
00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:37,119
is that these are craft

1276
00:48:41,589 --> 00:48:39,280
that behave although there's not like

1277
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:41,599
extreme maneuvers caught on camera there

1278
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:44,400
were extreme maneuvers that you'll hear

1279
00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:46,800
more about uh later

1280
00:48:50,549 --> 00:48:48,640
but you see these objects

1281
00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:50,559
and you catch them on radar you see them

1282
00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:52,480
in thermal and you see them in ir and

1283
00:48:56,309 --> 00:48:54,319
from deck footage and and some of them

1284
00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:56,319
dropped into the water and there was one

1285
00:48:59,190 --> 00:48:57,839
you know caught on camera and that's the

1286
00:49:00,230 --> 00:48:59,200
footage that is now famous that you've

1287
00:49:01,990 --> 00:49:00,240
seen

1288
00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:02,000
do you want me to jump right into the to

1289
00:49:07,750 --> 00:49:04,960
the [\h__\h] bouquet uh argument

1290
00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:07,760
just before you do um is the working on

1291
00:49:11,430 --> 00:49:09,680
seeing that later something that you're

1292
00:49:12,549 --> 00:49:11,440
dealing with that you're you're hoping

1293
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:12,559
to get out

1294
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:14,400
oh yeah i'm working my ass off to make

1295
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:16,480
sure that more information comes out

1296
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:18,400
yeah that more footage will be revealed

1297
00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:20,640
yeah that's that's a big focus of my

1298
00:49:24,549 --> 00:49:22,240
life i mean again i do have a day job

1299
00:49:26,790 --> 00:49:24,559
you know i do this is ufos is not my

1300
00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:26,800
entire life but it is a lot of what i

1301
00:49:30,950 --> 00:49:29,200
focus on so yeah i'm working

1302
00:49:31,990 --> 00:49:30,960
feverishly to make sure that everything

1303
00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:32,000
comes out at the right time for

1304
00:49:36,069 --> 00:49:34,400
everybody so let's talk about the bokeh

1305
00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:36,079
and just a quick shout out to listener

1306
00:49:39,829 --> 00:49:37,440
terry because i know this was something

1307
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:39,839
he brought up and others did as well but

1308
00:49:43,190 --> 00:49:41,520
on twitter and you said yourself great

1309
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:43,200
question so it was put in there so terry

1310
00:49:46,950 --> 00:49:45,359
here's your answer

1311
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:46,960
right okay so

1312
00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:49,280
the [\h__\h] bokeh thing that's been

1313
00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:51,440
going around right

1314
00:49:54,790 --> 00:49:52,800
first of all that you know you have to

1315
00:49:55,510 --> 00:49:54,800
understand that the sources of this kind

1316
00:49:57,910 --> 00:49:55,520
of

1317
00:50:00,309 --> 00:49:57,920
you know idea are people that that have

1318
00:50:02,309 --> 00:50:00,319
always made a point to exclude

1319
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:02,319
information right rather than look at

1320
00:50:06,309 --> 00:50:04,480
the totality of that information

1321
00:50:08,710 --> 00:50:06,319
it's like you can say well there's

1322
00:50:10,309 --> 00:50:08,720
planes in the sky you know well one is

1323
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:10,319
like a model plane this big and the

1324
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:12,400
other is like a 747 but look they're

1325
00:50:16,630 --> 00:50:14,400
both planes and so everything must be a

1326
00:50:19,109 --> 00:50:16,640
model plane i mean it's absolutely

1327
00:50:22,069 --> 00:50:19,119
um you have to look at the way people

1328
00:50:24,549 --> 00:50:22,079
argue things to understand the validity

1329
00:50:27,750 --> 00:50:24,559
just because something is

1330
00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:27,760
round and orange doesn't mean it is an

1331
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:31,359
orange so specifically i have right here

1332
00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:36,790
this is a

1333
00:50:41,750 --> 00:50:38,720
pvs

1334
00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:41,760
14 i think that's the the title um let

1335
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:43,520
me look if i can get the manual one

1336
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:50,309
yeah this is yeah this is the current

1337
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:53,200
military deployment so pbs14 okay so

1338
00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:55,920
check it out i have the exact one so

1339
00:51:02,150 --> 00:50:59,520
this is a pvs 14 right this is standard

1340
00:51:04,309 --> 00:51:02,160
issue since 2000

1341
00:51:06,829 --> 00:51:04,319
for all our armed services of course

1342
00:51:09,670 --> 00:51:06,839
there's binoculars as well this is a

1343
00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:09,680
monocular and it has a little cap on it

1344
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:12,240
with a little pinhole circular pinhole

1345
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:14,160
right and that's what's used if you want

1346
00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:16,000
to open it up during day time or you

1347
00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:18,960
want to refine the light at night

1348
00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:21,359
importantly these have dimmer switches

1349
00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:24,720
so you don't need any kind of

1350
00:51:29,109 --> 00:51:26,640
you know forced aperture on it because

1351
00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:29,119
it has a dimmer switch

1352
00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:31,280
this

1353
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:33,280
exact model

1354
00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:36,400
is what is used by the majority of our

1355
00:51:41,589 --> 00:51:40,559
armed services since 2000 to this day

1356
00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:41,599
right

1357
00:51:45,750 --> 00:51:42,559
there's

1358
00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:45,760
nothing on this that requires a false

1359
00:51:50,230 --> 00:51:48,240
iris or an irs that you're putting on it

1360
00:51:51,109 --> 00:51:50,240
as an addition again it's got a dimmer

1361
00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:51,119
switch

1362
00:51:56,309 --> 00:51:53,680
so oh i remember the thing back that you

1363
00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:56,319
said earlier you said snoopy teams yes

1364
00:52:01,670 --> 00:51:58,559
right so actually uh

1365
00:52:04,549 --> 00:52:01,680
who was on let's say the uss omaha it

1366
00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:04,559
was a viper team which is which is a you

1367
00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:06,400
know it's similar to the snoopy team but

1368
00:52:09,910 --> 00:52:07,680
what they do is they deal with

1369
00:52:11,750 --> 00:52:09,920
actionable events so they deal with

1370
00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:11,760
events it's not just like documenting

1371
00:52:15,190 --> 00:52:13,359
where they are they're like there's

1372
00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:15,200
something we need to find out what it is

1373
00:52:19,510 --> 00:52:17,359
is it a threat does it have opportunity

1374
00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:19,520
what's its capability so that's a viper

1375
00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:21,200
team so i know it's a small little

1376
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:22,559
nuance but i said it in the first

1377
00:52:25,750 --> 00:52:23,760
reporting and i want to make sure people

1378
00:52:27,430 --> 00:52:25,760
understand

1379
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:27,440
yeah that's the difference with the

1380
00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:28,720
viper teams

1381
00:52:31,829 --> 00:52:29,760
now

1382
00:52:33,990 --> 00:52:31,839
when it comes to what was filmed on the

1383
00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:34,000
uss russell

1384
00:52:40,470 --> 00:52:37,920
there's obviously a a camera being used

1385
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:40,480
and filming through a night vision so

1386
00:52:42,910 --> 00:52:42,000
it's filming through

1387
00:52:44,829 --> 00:52:42,920
a

1388
00:52:47,910 --> 00:52:44,839
pvs-14

1389
00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:47,920
monocular it could have been pbs 15

1390
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:49,760
binocular but it's the same thing and

1391
00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:51,200
i'm uh

1392
00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:52,800
highly confident that it is the

1393
00:52:57,190 --> 00:52:55,599
monocular okay but when you have this

1394
00:53:01,270 --> 00:52:57,200
and you and you point it up to the sky

1395
00:53:04,069 --> 00:53:01,280
there is no person that would ever um

1396
00:53:06,069 --> 00:53:04,079
you you can't even these come with the

1397
00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:06,079
actual aperture here like the little

1398
00:53:09,270 --> 00:53:08,000
light you know dimmer right there but

1399
00:53:11,589 --> 00:53:09,280
also a

1400
00:53:13,829 --> 00:53:11,599
a dimmer on the side they check them out

1401
00:53:15,430 --> 00:53:13,839
when they come out onto deck and they're

1402
00:53:17,109 --> 00:53:15,440
going to be documenting something so

1403
00:53:19,190 --> 00:53:17,119
they have to go like register check it

1404
00:53:21,109 --> 00:53:19,200
out bring it up onto deck

1405
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:21,119
so when they're filming through this

1406
00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:24,240
they're filming through the monocular

1407
00:53:27,349 --> 00:53:25,440
you have

1408
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:27,359
what you're seeing is just exactly

1409
00:53:31,030 --> 00:53:29,040
what's being shown through that

1410
00:53:31,910 --> 00:53:31,040
monocular there's no

1411
00:53:33,829 --> 00:53:31,920
uh

1412
00:53:36,150 --> 00:53:33,839
there's no false i call it a false

1413
00:53:38,230 --> 00:53:36,160
aperture there's no additional aperture

1414
00:53:41,430 --> 00:53:38,240
to it it's completely unneeded you can

1415
00:53:43,510 --> 00:53:41,440
go online and try to find like a really

1416
00:53:45,589 --> 00:53:43,520
cheap version that would not be given to

1417
00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:45,599
the viper team would not be given to

1418
00:53:51,910 --> 00:53:49,280
snoopy teams this is the model that is

1419
00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:51,920
used by our armed services

1420
00:53:58,150 --> 00:53:55,200
so with that said the idea that you can

1421
00:54:00,069 --> 00:53:58,160
create a look of a bouquet by like

1422
00:54:02,309 --> 00:54:00,079
taking tape and putting it all over your

1423
00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:02,319
lens of course you can you can do that

1424
00:54:05,990 --> 00:54:03,599
if you want to

1425
00:54:08,470 --> 00:54:06,000
that's not what happened

1426
00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:08,480
now additionally there's further

1427
00:54:13,349 --> 00:54:11,440
investigation into and further types of

1428
00:54:14,950 --> 00:54:13,359
optics that are used when you're

1429
00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:14,960
tracking you know these things around

1430
00:54:19,510 --> 00:54:17,200
our warships can you imagine ufos trap

1431
00:54:21,589 --> 00:54:19,520
you know around our warships how many

1432
00:54:23,589 --> 00:54:21,599
eyes are going to be trying to discern

1433
00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:23,599
what's going on i mean from radar to

1434
00:54:29,990 --> 00:54:27,119
flir to ir to viper teams so it wasn't

1435
00:54:32,710 --> 00:54:30,000
just like one piece of footage

1436
00:54:34,390 --> 00:54:32,720
now these objects that were on uss

1437
00:54:37,030 --> 00:54:34,400
russell they were different they and

1438
00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:37,040
again in in classified briefings that

1439
00:54:40,309 --> 00:54:38,720
maybe there will be parts that come out

1440
00:54:42,309 --> 00:54:40,319
they talk about them as being pure

1441
00:54:44,789 --> 00:54:42,319
middle in shape that they

1442
00:54:47,670 --> 00:54:44,799
tracked the uss russell

1443
00:54:49,589 --> 00:54:47,680
they stopped over the tail of the ussr

1444
00:54:51,829 --> 00:54:49,599
also three of them in particular at one

1445
00:54:53,910 --> 00:54:51,839
point right and all of this was

1446
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:53,920
accumulated into data and pushed through

1447
00:54:58,150 --> 00:54:56,720
the system to get up hopefully to people

1448
00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:58,160
that would really be able to look at

1449
00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:00,720
this and investigate it further

1450
00:55:06,789 --> 00:55:03,119
and it was to some degree a lot of the

1451
00:55:08,789 --> 00:55:06,799
footage was not um in the hands of the

1452
00:55:09,910 --> 00:55:08,799
pentagon when it should be when i

1453
00:55:11,589 --> 00:55:09,920
released it

1454
00:55:16,069 --> 00:55:11,599
so

1455
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:16,079
that all of that information was given

1456
00:55:21,670 --> 00:55:19,680
to the pentagon just prior to my release

1457
00:55:23,910 --> 00:55:21,680
to make sure they had it because it was

1458
00:55:26,069 --> 00:55:23,920
filmed by our military right trying to

1459
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:26,079
do everything right

1460
00:55:31,589 --> 00:55:28,559
so this idea that there is some sort of

1461
00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:31,599
tape on the lens or there is some sort

1462
00:55:34,670 --> 00:55:33,440
of attachment

1463
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:34,680
to the

1464
00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:39,440
pbs14 monocular it's absolutely an

1465
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:42,559
absurdity this is not how

1466
00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:44,160
these uh

1467
00:55:49,829 --> 00:55:47,280
objects are taken out when they're taken

1468
00:55:51,829 --> 00:55:49,839
up and used on deck and it's just not

1469
00:55:53,109 --> 00:55:51,839
this is they're not personal objects for

1470
00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:53,119
people

1471
00:55:56,150 --> 00:55:54,960
i appreciate that breakdown jeremy and

1472
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:56,160
that's for those that are quite

1473
00:56:00,150 --> 00:55:58,000
technically apt they'll appreciate that

1474
00:56:02,150 --> 00:56:00,160
as well i'm sure um so we've not heard

1475
00:56:03,910 --> 00:56:02,160
the last of that that event and you're

1476
00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:03,920
quite confident more information

1477
00:56:07,990 --> 00:56:05,359
hopefully will come out through yourself

1478
00:56:10,390 --> 00:56:08,000
or other channels in the future

1479
00:56:11,910 --> 00:56:10,400
oh yeah yeah i i know for sure that more

1480
00:56:15,349 --> 00:56:11,920
information will be coming out on this

1481
00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:15,359
and all of the events of 2019 yeah i

1482
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:16,559
know for sure

1483
00:56:19,750 --> 00:56:17,920
i'm going to move on before we get to

1484
00:56:21,030 --> 00:56:19,760
listener questions uh something i want

1485
00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:21,040
to reach out and talk to you about

1486
00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:23,760
jeremy is cataclysms this is something

1487
00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:25,440
that came up in the vernacular in the

1488
00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:28,240
last year john ramirez ex-cia ross

1489
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:31,119
coulthart uh frank melbourne and others

1490
00:56:36,069 --> 00:56:34,079
have talked about hearing from sources

1491
00:56:38,470 --> 00:56:36,079
that there have been impending

1492
00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:38,480
cataclysms on the horizon they've heard

1493
00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:41,040
about when it comes to uap is this

1494
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:42,480
something you've ever come across or

1495
00:56:46,870 --> 00:56:44,880
heard about from your sources

1496
00:56:48,309 --> 00:56:46,880
you know look man the sky is always

1497
00:56:51,109 --> 00:56:48,319
falling i don't know everybody you know

1498
00:56:53,829 --> 00:56:51,119
everybody has a different uh perspective

1499
00:56:55,270 --> 00:56:53,839
uh ufos have been with us

1500
00:56:57,670 --> 00:56:55,280
forever man they've been part of the

1501
00:56:59,829 --> 00:56:57,680
human experience for for as long as we

1502
00:57:01,430 --> 00:56:59,839
know since since as long as recorded

1503
00:57:03,190 --> 00:57:01,440
human history

1504
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:03,200
some people's like the military

1505
00:57:07,829 --> 00:57:05,599
perspective is you know if we can't

1506
00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:07,839
identify it and it's in our restricted

1507
00:57:11,349 --> 00:57:09,760
airspace and it outmaneuvers out

1508
00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:11,359
performs and outpaces anything that we

1509
00:57:17,589 --> 00:57:14,400
have obviously this could be a potential

1510
00:57:20,150 --> 00:57:17,599
threat so this is just a perspective

1511
00:57:22,630 --> 00:57:20,160
point of view which is that

1512
00:57:24,789 --> 00:57:22,640
uh this presence that has been with us

1513
00:57:27,349 --> 00:57:24,799
for a long time some people believe it's

1514
00:57:29,829 --> 00:57:27,359
in quotes prepping the battlefield and

1515
00:57:31,829 --> 00:57:29,839
and i can't argue against that you know

1516
00:57:34,150 --> 00:57:31,839
maybe it is true have you ever read

1517
00:57:36,069 --> 00:57:34,160
childhoods and by arthur c clarke and

1518
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:36,079
you know the craft end up like just

1519
00:57:39,030 --> 00:57:38,160
hovering there for decades because

1520
00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:39,040
they're

1521
00:57:43,030 --> 00:57:41,280
acclimating humankind to it sure we

1522
00:57:44,789 --> 00:57:43,040
could be saying something like that i

1523
00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:44,799
mean that makes for a good movie and and

1524
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:46,880
maybe it's true i have no idea but

1525
00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:49,440
that's a military perspective that the

1526
00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:51,280
ufo phenomenon

1527
00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:54,880
somehow poses a threat to humanity

1528
00:57:58,150 --> 00:57:55,920
because

1529
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:58,160
it's unknown

1530
00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:59,839
now

1531
00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:00,960
that could

1532
00:58:05,109 --> 00:58:03,760
very much be true like i don't know and

1533
00:58:07,910 --> 00:58:05,119
i can't say

1534
00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:07,920
but the idea of like a cataclysmic event

1535
00:58:11,109 --> 00:58:10,319
i mean how many times have people

1536
00:58:13,990 --> 00:58:11,119
you know

1537
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:14,000
said this in relation to ufos i just i

1538
00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:16,000
don't see the evidence of what i see the

1539
00:58:22,710 --> 00:58:19,359
evidence of is an increased frequency

1540
00:58:25,109 --> 00:58:22,720
of the ufo presence engaging humanity

1541
00:58:26,950 --> 00:58:25,119
and 99.99

1542
00:58:30,069 --> 00:58:26,960
of it appears

1543
00:58:33,430 --> 00:58:30,079
to be non-harmful to to humanity

1544
00:58:37,109 --> 00:58:33,440
there are of course uh one percent that

1545
00:58:38,309 --> 00:58:37,119
are very very negative and directed and

1546
00:58:40,230 --> 00:58:38,319
harmful

1547
00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:40,240
so i don't know i don't know what we're

1548
00:58:44,950 --> 00:58:42,480
dealing with and i don't have any idea

1549
00:58:46,549 --> 00:58:44,960
of a cataclysmic ufo event but

1550
00:58:48,950 --> 00:58:46,559
anything's possible

1551
00:58:50,950 --> 00:58:48,960
let me just ask on that 99 where they

1552
00:58:53,829 --> 00:58:50,960
appear to be non-harmful would that be

1553
00:58:55,910 --> 00:58:53,839
indirectly or because we hear a lot of

1554
00:58:58,470 --> 00:58:55,920
these objects are potentially giving off

1555
00:59:01,349 --> 00:58:58,480
radiation people getting too close to

1556
00:59:04,230 --> 00:59:01,359
them pilots and other witnesses are are

1557
00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:04,240
getting strange cancers and burns do you

1558
00:59:09,109 --> 00:59:06,480
think that's the case that these happen

1559
00:59:12,069 --> 00:59:09,119
as a consequence of just them being

1560
00:59:14,309 --> 00:59:12,079
radioactive or from somewhere else then

1561
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:14,319
yeah not not all of them are radioactive

1562
00:59:19,829 --> 00:59:16,640
by close proximity so

1563
00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:19,839
it's strange the the idea is this that

1564
00:59:23,430 --> 00:59:20,880
there are

1565
00:59:24,470 --> 00:59:23,440
negative biological effects that can

1566
00:59:26,710 --> 00:59:24,480
occur

1567
00:59:29,190 --> 00:59:26,720
when people come into close proximity

1568
00:59:32,789 --> 00:59:29,200
with a ufo that that is certain that is

1569
00:59:34,150 --> 00:59:32,799
documented and you see in the the durds

1570
00:59:37,030 --> 00:59:34,160
the defense intelligence reference

1571
00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:37,040
documents that were put out by the dia

1572
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:39,920
ufo program called osap advanced

1573
00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:42,240
aerospace weapon system applications

1574
00:59:46,150 --> 00:59:43,440
program

1575
00:59:48,390 --> 00:59:46,160
that indeed there are these negative

1576
00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:48,400
biological effects like extremely rare

1577
00:59:53,109 --> 00:59:50,720
forms of cancer

1578
00:59:54,870 --> 00:59:53,119
degradation on a cellular and

1579
00:59:56,870 --> 00:59:54,880
dna level

1580
00:59:58,630 --> 00:59:56,880
all of this was was highly documented

1581
01:00:00,710 --> 00:59:58,640
scientifically

1582
01:00:03,430 --> 01:00:00,720
however it is so interesting people

1583
01:00:06,789 --> 01:00:03,440
really took umbrage with this list of

1584
01:00:08,630 --> 01:00:06,799
known effects in pop culture of ufos and

1585
01:00:11,190 --> 01:00:08,640
they say well it was sourced from

1586
01:00:12,549 --> 01:00:11,200
penthouse magazine or it was you know

1587
01:00:15,030 --> 01:00:12,559
sourced from

1588
01:00:16,950 --> 01:00:15,040
uh tabloids and whatnot

1589
01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:16,960
so speaking with the heads of that

1590
01:00:20,710 --> 01:00:18,240
program

1591
01:00:22,150 --> 01:00:20,720
the entire point of that appendix

1592
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:22,160
appendix a

1593
01:00:28,710 --> 01:00:25,440
was to document what in pop culture was

1594
01:00:29,829 --> 01:00:28,720
associated with the ufo phenomenon

1595
01:00:31,990 --> 01:00:29,839
there's something that hit the news

1596
01:00:33,349 --> 01:00:32,000
which was like uh un

1597
01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:33,359
on uh

1598
01:00:37,589 --> 01:00:35,760
was the exact word it was

1599
01:00:39,190 --> 01:00:37,599
like unknown pregnancies or something

1600
01:00:41,990 --> 01:00:39,200
like that yeah

1601
01:00:44,950 --> 01:00:42,000
so it really got this like pop culture

1602
01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:44,960
kind of media attention which is

1603
01:00:50,549 --> 01:00:47,920
probably good but that appendix was just

1604
01:00:53,670 --> 01:00:50,559
to create a baseline information of what

1605
01:00:55,750 --> 01:00:53,680
has been told and said publicly in the

1606
01:00:57,910 --> 01:00:55,760
public space that's why wikipedia was

1607
01:00:59,109 --> 01:00:57,920
referenced in some of these documents

1608
01:01:01,109 --> 01:00:59,119
these people didn't know they were

1609
01:01:02,950 --> 01:01:01,119
working for the government they were

1610
01:01:05,829 --> 01:01:02,960
generating these scientific reports and

1611
01:01:07,829 --> 01:01:05,839
then that aspect of appendix a was just

1612
01:01:10,069 --> 01:01:07,839
to create a baseline so that baseline

1613
01:01:12,069 --> 01:01:10,079
can then be referred to as okay here's

1614
01:01:14,069 --> 01:01:12,079
what we studied boots on the ground 42

1615
01:01:16,630 --> 01:01:14,079
biological cases right

1616
01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:16,640
and then what can we compare to what's

1617
01:01:21,030 --> 01:01:18,960
been in popular culture and is the the

1618
01:01:23,030 --> 01:01:21,040
height of public information at this

1619
01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:23,040
time which does include wikipedia

1620
01:01:26,549 --> 01:01:24,480
penthouse magazine anywhere where

1621
01:01:29,349 --> 01:01:26,559
there's a ufo story so it's so funny how

1622
01:01:32,470 --> 01:01:29,359
people twist things to try to

1623
01:01:34,230 --> 01:01:32,480
uh diminish the work that was done

1624
01:01:36,390 --> 01:01:34,240
because they don't want to look at it

1625
01:01:38,230 --> 01:01:36,400
for what it actually was and i hope that

1626
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:38,240
really makes sense to people of what

1627
01:01:42,630 --> 01:01:41,040
that appendix a was and why everything

1628
01:01:44,309 --> 01:01:42,640
was listed in there it was so they could

1629
01:01:46,630 --> 01:01:44,319
compare and contrast with the official

1630
01:01:48,470 --> 01:01:46,640
ufo program what it is known in the

1631
01:01:51,270 --> 01:01:48,480
public realm

1632
01:01:54,150 --> 01:01:51,280
uh and then as far as that

1633
01:01:56,230 --> 01:01:54,160
negative biological aspect

1634
01:01:58,390 --> 01:01:56,240
yeah it does appear that a lot of that

1635
01:02:01,270 --> 01:01:58,400
comes from the close proximity to the

1636
01:02:04,150 --> 01:02:01,280
propulsion system this is what's uh

1637
01:02:06,309 --> 01:02:04,160
understood by a lot of people within the

1638
01:02:08,069 --> 01:02:06,319
government who did study this is that

1639
01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:08,079
it's most likely some sort of

1640
01:02:14,710 --> 01:02:11,520
association with that propulsion system

1641
01:02:17,349 --> 01:02:14,720
you know however of and of course

1642
01:02:20,390 --> 01:02:17,359
there are cases that are much more

1643
01:02:21,589 --> 01:02:20,400
directed that do look like hostile

1644
01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:21,599
action

1645
01:02:25,829 --> 01:02:23,760
but that's that's not what's referenced

1646
01:02:27,670 --> 01:02:25,839
in the majority of of

1647
01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:27,680
of that research

1648
01:02:31,510 --> 01:02:29,760
um you've talked a lot about uh

1649
01:02:32,950 --> 01:02:31,520
incidents within america obviously

1650
01:02:34,870 --> 01:02:32,960
that's that's where you're based and

1651
01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:34,880
that's where a lot of these stories and

1652
01:02:38,789 --> 01:02:36,960
the narrative is being driven from

1653
01:02:40,470 --> 01:02:38,799
i'm based in the uk we've got a large

1654
01:02:42,789 --> 01:02:40,480
portion of listeners based outside of

1655
01:02:44,870 --> 01:02:42,799
the us have you had any interesting

1656
01:02:46,470 --> 01:02:44,880
conversations with officials from

1657
01:02:48,069 --> 01:02:46,480
outside of the us

1658
01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:48,079
and is there any potential for those

1659
01:02:51,829 --> 01:02:49,920
leading anywhere interesting for us that

1660
01:02:53,510 --> 01:02:51,839
are looking for a bit of outside

1661
01:02:57,190 --> 01:02:53,520
assistance

1662
01:03:00,069 --> 01:02:57,200
yeah so the ufo phenomenon is global

1663
01:03:03,029 --> 01:03:00,079
it is homogeneous throughout the world

1664
01:03:04,710 --> 01:03:03,039
also there are waves throughout time

1665
01:03:07,029 --> 01:03:04,720
where there's highs and lows of

1666
01:03:09,510 --> 01:03:07,039
sightings however there is and does

1667
01:03:12,630 --> 01:03:09,520
appear to be an increased frequency

1668
01:03:15,510 --> 01:03:12,640
or an increased recording

1669
01:03:17,349 --> 01:03:15,520
because we now have better technology

1670
01:03:20,950 --> 01:03:17,359
remember this is one of the big reasons

1671
01:03:24,230 --> 01:03:20,960
why we're able to spot ufos now is

1672
01:03:27,109 --> 01:03:24,240
because of the infrared signatures that

1673
01:03:28,789 --> 01:03:27,119
we now know that are often created by

1674
01:03:30,309 --> 01:03:28,799
ufos so it's something you can't see

1675
01:03:32,230 --> 01:03:30,319
with a visual eye but it's in a

1676
01:03:34,390 --> 01:03:32,240
different spectrum of light so i would

1677
01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:34,400
argue that the increased frequency might

1678
01:03:39,349 --> 01:03:36,000
not be an increased frequency it might

1679
01:03:41,510 --> 01:03:39,359
just be an increased observation right

1680
01:03:42,309 --> 01:03:41,520
but again that's happening around the

1681
01:03:45,270 --> 01:03:42,319
world

1682
01:03:46,870 --> 01:03:45,280
you would be extremely surprised i was

1683
01:03:49,109 --> 01:03:46,880
extremely surprised

1684
01:03:52,549 --> 01:03:49,119
on the individuals

1685
01:03:55,510 --> 01:03:52,559
of high ranker stature who have and are

1686
01:03:58,870 --> 01:03:55,520
in a position to alter the course of

1687
01:04:01,029 --> 01:03:58,880
history that are in position to help

1688
01:04:02,069 --> 01:04:01,039
move the needle forward and expose this

1689
01:04:04,630 --> 01:04:02,079
information

1690
01:04:07,109 --> 01:04:04,640
that would end up calling a ufo i don't

1691
01:04:09,510 --> 01:04:07,119
know filmmaker like myself yeah i'm

1692
01:04:11,109 --> 01:04:09,520
very

1693
01:04:14,710 --> 01:04:11,119
optimistic

1694
01:04:17,029 --> 01:04:14,720
that other countries will be engaging

1695
01:04:19,510 --> 01:04:17,039
this issue on a deeper level

1696
01:04:21,589 --> 01:04:19,520
all the way from civilian

1697
01:04:25,109 --> 01:04:21,599
to politics

1698
01:04:27,270 --> 01:04:25,119
up into military individuals who who

1699
01:04:30,549 --> 01:04:27,280
believe this information

1700
01:04:33,029 --> 01:04:30,559
should be a public record that it is

1701
01:04:34,549 --> 01:04:33,039
important for human beings and all these

1702
01:04:37,750 --> 01:04:34,559
countries to be aware of the

1703
01:04:41,430 --> 01:04:37,760
fundamentals without releasing you know

1704
01:04:43,750 --> 01:04:41,440
trade secrets anything to to to tarnish

1705
01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:43,760
national security but again understand

1706
01:04:48,390 --> 01:04:45,760
we are we are not in a place where we

1707
01:04:50,870 --> 01:04:48,400
are working together as nations

1708
01:04:53,109 --> 01:04:50,880
russia has their own ufo back

1709
01:04:54,870 --> 01:04:53,119
engineering programs as well as

1710
01:04:57,510 --> 01:04:54,880
observation programs

1711
01:04:59,190 --> 01:04:57,520
as does china using their ai which i

1712
01:05:01,430 --> 01:04:59,200
think we also use

1713
01:05:02,870 --> 01:05:01,440
and then just every country you can

1714
01:05:05,349 --> 01:05:02,880
imagine that's a technologically

1715
01:05:08,150 --> 01:05:05,359
advanced nation especially if they have

1716
01:05:10,630 --> 01:05:08,160
nuclear weapons are very aware of the

1717
01:05:13,430 --> 01:05:10,640
ufo phenomenon and their ability for

1718
01:05:15,190 --> 01:05:13,440
incursions onto sensitive sites across

1719
01:05:18,069 --> 01:05:15,200
the board so

1720
01:05:19,589 --> 01:05:18,079
if i focus more on the u.s stuff that's

1721
01:05:22,390 --> 01:05:19,599
because i'm just fighting to get more

1722
01:05:24,230 --> 01:05:22,400
information from international cases

1723
01:05:25,829 --> 01:05:24,240
one more question jeremy before we move

1724
01:05:27,750 --> 01:05:25,839
on to the listener questions and i

1725
01:05:30,390 --> 01:05:27,760
appreciate the time you've spent already

1726
01:05:33,510 --> 01:05:30,400
how do you view your position or role

1727
01:05:35,589 --> 01:05:33,520
within the world of ufology

1728
01:05:38,630 --> 01:05:35,599
uh how do i view my position or role

1729
01:05:40,630 --> 01:05:38,640
within the world of ufology um

1730
01:05:43,670 --> 01:05:40,640
the same as i view my position in the

1731
01:05:46,870 --> 01:05:43,680
world i'm i am a curious person

1732
01:05:49,990 --> 01:05:46,880
i i would like to know more i am very

1733
01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:50,000
proactive and i like to go for it and

1734
01:05:53,829 --> 01:05:51,599
you know you give me something i'm a dog

1735
01:05:56,950 --> 01:05:53,839
with a bone like i ain't gonna let go of

1736
01:05:59,670 --> 01:05:56,960
it until i get some sort of answer

1737
01:06:02,549 --> 01:05:59,680
i think my position is more than

1738
01:06:05,270 --> 01:06:02,559
anything i hope that the listener or the

1739
01:06:08,390 --> 01:06:05,280
viewer would be inspired

1740
01:06:10,230 --> 01:06:08,400
to make waves that they themselves can

1741
01:06:14,069 --> 01:06:10,240
just like grab on to what they're

1742
01:06:16,549 --> 01:06:14,079
interested in and and help contribute to

1743
01:06:19,029 --> 01:06:16,559
our body of knowledge to help

1744
01:06:21,510 --> 01:06:19,039
again like build this map of

1745
01:06:23,109 --> 01:06:21,520
understanding that we have it doesn't

1746
01:06:25,510 --> 01:06:23,119
take look

1747
01:06:27,910 --> 01:06:25,520
i'm a psa it doesn't take special talent

1748
01:06:29,910 --> 01:06:27,920
man you know all it takes is that you go

1749
01:06:31,670 --> 01:06:29,920
for it and that you don't let go and you

1750
01:06:33,829 --> 01:06:31,680
have to be a little bit sociable i've

1751
01:06:36,309 --> 01:06:33,839
been told i'm not the most sociable

1752
01:06:38,069 --> 01:06:36,319
person right so i could you know i think

1753
01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:38,079
you have to be a little bit sociable but

1754
01:06:42,150 --> 01:06:40,000
mostly you need to be able to build

1755
01:06:44,230 --> 01:06:42,160
trust with people they need to know that

1756
01:06:46,150 --> 01:06:44,240
they can trust you and they're going to

1757
01:06:48,150 --> 01:06:46,160
tell you the things that that maybe will

1758
01:06:49,990 --> 01:06:48,160
lead you in the right direction so i

1759
01:06:52,549 --> 01:06:50,000
don't know if i had to if i had to

1760
01:06:56,069 --> 01:06:52,559
choose a role if i could project on you

1761
01:06:59,109 --> 01:06:56,079
a role right my role would be i really

1762
01:07:01,029 --> 01:06:59,119
hope people would feel inspired uh by my

1763
01:07:02,549 --> 01:07:01,039
inspector crusoe investigations where

1764
01:07:04,549 --> 01:07:02,559
i'm constantly messing up but at the

1765
01:07:05,990 --> 01:07:04,559
same time i'm always making progress

1766
01:07:07,190 --> 01:07:06,000
forward and i believe anybody can do

1767
01:07:08,950 --> 01:07:07,200
that

1768
01:07:10,309 --> 01:07:08,960
absolutely listen let's get to listener

1769
01:07:12,630 --> 01:07:10,319
questions you saw how many were

1770
01:07:15,190 --> 01:07:12,640
submitted just in the twitter thread i

1771
01:07:17,510 --> 01:07:15,200
had dms emails and all kinds of social

1772
01:07:19,750 --> 01:07:17,520
media interactions so let's get through

1773
01:07:21,349 --> 01:07:19,760
some of these um thanks to everyone who

1774
01:07:24,309 --> 01:07:21,359
did submit a question we're going to get

1775
01:07:26,069 --> 01:07:24,319
to about a tenth of them if we're lucky

1776
01:07:29,349 --> 01:07:26,079
okay jeremy straight into listener

1777
01:07:31,829 --> 01:07:29,359
questions first up from bliss backs um

1778
01:07:34,870 --> 01:07:31,839
our minds such as elon musk and neil

1779
01:07:37,670 --> 01:07:34,880
degrasse tyson aware of or to any extent

1780
01:07:40,630 --> 01:07:37,680
engaging with the aoi msg or other

1781
01:07:44,710 --> 01:07:40,640
groups and do you think possibly being

1782
01:07:46,549 --> 01:07:44,720
advised to avoid the ufo subject

1783
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:46,559
yeah it's a good question i don't think

1784
01:07:52,069 --> 01:07:49,520
people need to be advised to

1785
01:07:54,789 --> 01:07:52,079
avoid the ufo question

1786
01:07:58,390 --> 01:07:54,799
i find it a real tragedy that neil

1787
01:07:59,510 --> 01:07:58,400
degrasse tyson makes these errors like

1788
01:08:03,510 --> 01:07:59,520
you know

1789
01:08:06,309 --> 01:08:03,520
comparing navy warship footage to

1790
01:08:09,190 --> 01:08:06,319
instagram photos where you've got these

1791
01:08:10,950 --> 01:08:09,200
flir pods which are active targeting

1792
01:08:11,829 --> 01:08:10,960
systems that are weapon systems and

1793
01:08:14,630 --> 01:08:11,839
saying

1794
01:08:16,950 --> 01:08:14,640
they look grainy there's no grainy in

1795
01:08:18,630 --> 01:08:16,960
these so i think that hubris is the

1796
01:08:20,950 --> 01:08:18,640
number one thing that stops certain

1797
01:08:23,590 --> 01:08:20,960
scientists from really looking at a

1798
01:08:25,990 --> 01:08:23,600
topic which they should be salivating

1799
01:08:28,870 --> 01:08:26,000
over because again this is uh uncharted

1800
01:08:31,749 --> 01:08:28,880
territory we do have evidence we have

1801
01:08:34,229 --> 01:08:31,759
stuff now that can be analyzed and very

1802
01:08:36,950 --> 01:08:34,239
famously michio kaku said you know the

1803
01:08:38,709 --> 01:08:36,960
burden of proof is now on that these are

1804
01:08:42,149 --> 01:08:38,719
these are not

1805
01:08:44,229 --> 01:08:42,159
some sort of ufo and that these are just

1806
01:08:46,789 --> 01:08:44,239
you know mundane things that can be

1807
01:08:48,910 --> 01:08:46,799
explained like balloons because these

1808
01:08:52,309 --> 01:08:48,920
are showing

1809
01:08:54,630 --> 01:08:52,319
extraordinary propulsion capabilities so

1810
01:08:56,709 --> 01:08:54,640
it disheartens me that people like neil

1811
01:08:59,669 --> 01:08:56,719
tyson who i did call out on instagram

1812
01:09:01,110 --> 01:08:59,679
and to his credit he did answer but at

1813
01:09:02,789 --> 01:09:01,120
the same time

1814
01:09:05,110 --> 01:09:02,799
i think it's kind of sad

1815
01:09:07,590 --> 01:09:05,120
additionally i

1816
01:09:09,829 --> 01:09:07,600
i'm not gonna comment so much on on elon

1817
01:09:10,950 --> 01:09:09,839
musk i i think everybody can kind of

1818
01:09:12,789 --> 01:09:10,960
read

1819
01:09:15,829 --> 01:09:12,799
that he

1820
01:09:17,590 --> 01:09:15,839
knows more than than than he led on in a

1821
01:09:19,510 --> 01:09:17,600
couple of his uh

1822
01:09:21,430 --> 01:09:19,520
long form interviews i think that should

1823
01:09:23,189 --> 01:09:21,440
be obvious to people

1824
01:09:25,349 --> 01:09:23,199
neil degrasse tyson was someone i used

1825
01:09:27,669 --> 01:09:25,359
to really enjoy his podcast a few years

1826
01:09:29,510 --> 01:09:27,679
ago before i started this and then the

1827
01:09:31,590 --> 01:09:29,520
dissing of the ufo subject but like you

1828
01:09:33,910 --> 01:09:31,600
say it's funny he he criticized the

1829
01:09:37,349 --> 01:09:33,920
quality of photographs and videos of

1830
01:09:40,550 --> 01:09:37,359
ufos when most of his subject

1831
01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:40,560
they use pictures of the planets they

1832
01:09:45,269 --> 01:09:43,120
find are just dimmings of light and they

1833
01:09:46,950 --> 01:09:45,279
then go and investigate off the back of

1834
01:09:48,550 --> 01:09:46,960
the dimming of the light as a planet

1835
01:09:50,709 --> 01:09:48,560
watch the composition and they spend

1836
01:09:52,789 --> 01:09:50,719
time on it and if you spent some of that

1837
01:09:55,030 --> 01:09:52,799
time investigating the subject of these

1838
01:09:56,229 --> 01:09:55,040
grainy videos then maybe you'd find

1839
01:09:57,990 --> 01:09:56,239
behind that

1840
01:10:00,149 --> 01:09:58,000
something as interesting as a foreign

1841
01:10:02,630 --> 01:10:00,159
body a different planet or or something

1842
01:10:05,510 --> 01:10:02,640
even more incredible can you can you

1843
01:10:07,669 --> 01:10:05,520
imagine if everybody was if it was

1844
01:10:08,870 --> 01:10:07,679
socially acceptable which is becoming

1845
01:10:11,030 --> 01:10:08,880
more and more

1846
01:10:13,830 --> 01:10:11,040
to really refine

1847
01:10:16,950 --> 01:10:13,840
the the search for understanding when it

1848
01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:16,960
comes to these obvious craft that are

1849
01:10:20,790 --> 01:10:18,960
from somewhere else we don't know who's

1850
01:10:22,950 --> 01:10:20,800
making them you know they have to be

1851
01:10:25,030 --> 01:10:22,960
made somewhere they have to be piloted

1852
01:10:27,110 --> 01:10:25,040
whether it be through an ai or through a

1853
01:10:29,430 --> 01:10:27,120
physical being

1854
01:10:32,149 --> 01:10:29,440
there's so much information that could

1855
01:10:33,510 --> 01:10:32,159
be looked at and dissected and and we

1856
01:10:36,390 --> 01:10:33,520
really need great mind so i don't want

1857
01:10:38,950 --> 01:10:36,400
to ostracize people and say oh shame on

1858
01:10:41,590 --> 01:10:38,960
you for not looking at this i i please i

1859
01:10:43,510 --> 01:10:41,600
invite you in i don't even need to do

1860
01:10:44,950 --> 01:10:43,520
that you should be inviting yourself in

1861
01:10:47,910 --> 01:10:44,960
you should be kicking down the doors we

1862
01:10:50,550 --> 01:10:47,920
need great minds both scientifically but

1863
01:10:51,669 --> 01:10:50,560
also we need philosophers man

1864
01:10:54,070 --> 01:10:51,679
100

1865
01:10:56,470 --> 01:10:54,080
next question was from walker walker

1866
01:10:58,550 --> 01:10:56,480
always ask good questions he asks have

1867
01:11:01,110 --> 01:10:58,560
you gained any new insights on the true

1868
01:11:04,070 --> 01:11:01,120
nature of this consensus reality since

1869
01:11:06,470 --> 01:11:04,080
delving into the uap subject and has the

1870
01:11:09,430 --> 01:11:06,480
phenomenon taken an interest in you

1871
01:11:12,550 --> 01:11:09,440
since you have been knocking on its door

1872
01:11:15,669 --> 01:11:12,560
wow yeah that gave me goosebumps man uh

1873
01:11:18,310 --> 01:11:15,679
you know consensus reality is often

1874
01:11:20,070 --> 01:11:18,320
wrong and we know this because we can

1875
01:11:22,870 --> 01:11:20,080
look throughout history and see what

1876
01:11:25,510 --> 01:11:22,880
consensus reality was and then what the

1877
01:11:29,030 --> 01:11:25,520
truth turns out to be i mean this is a

1878
01:11:32,149 --> 01:11:29,040
discovery on the on the level of galileo

1879
01:11:34,630 --> 01:11:32,159
right so we have big misunderstandings

1880
01:11:37,510 --> 01:11:34,640
from time to time throughout history so

1881
01:11:40,470 --> 01:11:37,520
i could say that consensus reality is is

1882
01:11:43,270 --> 01:11:40,480
very important because it is what we

1883
01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:43,280
create policy off of it is the the

1884
01:11:48,630 --> 01:11:45,760
discussions we're allowed to have

1885
01:11:51,110 --> 01:11:48,640
is based upon consensus reality so if

1886
01:11:53,910 --> 01:11:51,120
anything we should be reaching out to

1887
01:11:55,270 --> 01:11:53,920
every kind of person that can look at

1888
01:11:58,630 --> 01:11:55,280
this together

1889
01:12:01,350 --> 01:11:58,640
it's so important that the consensus is

1890
01:12:02,870 --> 01:12:01,360
that this is obviously it's real the

1891
01:12:05,189 --> 01:12:02,880
phenomenon

1892
01:12:07,270 --> 01:12:05,199
but what is it what does it mean what

1893
01:12:09,830 --> 01:12:07,280
does it mean to us as humans what does

1894
01:12:12,470 --> 01:12:09,840
it mean to our space in this world to

1895
01:12:13,910 --> 01:12:12,480
our existence what is our relationship

1896
01:12:16,550 --> 01:12:13,920
to the phenomenon

1897
01:12:17,990 --> 01:12:16,560
this is so important so consensus

1898
01:12:19,030 --> 01:12:18,000
reality for me

1899
01:12:21,830 --> 01:12:19,040
um

1900
01:12:24,950 --> 01:12:21,840
is something that needs to be addressed

1901
01:12:26,870 --> 01:12:24,960
as we learn more information and slowly

1902
01:12:28,630 --> 01:12:26,880
and surely over time

1903
01:12:31,990 --> 01:12:28,640
we're going to come to understand our

1904
01:12:33,990 --> 01:12:32,000
universe in in a in a more broad and

1905
01:12:36,950 --> 01:12:34,000
inclusive way

1906
01:12:39,669 --> 01:12:36,960
now has the phenomenon you know the old

1907
01:12:41,189 --> 01:12:39,679
thing was it nietzsche that said or

1908
01:12:42,630 --> 01:12:41,199
i think that's how you say his name that

1909
01:12:44,229 --> 01:12:42,640
said uh you know

1910
01:12:45,910 --> 01:12:44,239
when when you look into the void it

1911
01:12:47,350 --> 01:12:45,920
stares back at you or something like

1912
01:12:49,590 --> 01:12:47,360
that i don't know

1913
01:12:51,669 --> 01:12:49,600
uh you know the premise yeah

1914
01:12:55,030 --> 01:12:51,679
okay whatever it is like you know the

1915
01:12:57,189 --> 01:12:55,040
premise of the question is

1916
01:12:59,430 --> 01:12:57,199
does the observer

1917
01:13:02,229 --> 01:12:59,440
become observed

1918
01:13:04,630 --> 01:13:02,239
when looking into this phenomenon

1919
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:04,640
which is such an interesting question

1920
01:13:10,070 --> 01:13:06,480
because we do know

1921
01:13:13,350 --> 01:13:10,080
that the consciousness of an observer

1922
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:13,360
matters on the in the microcosm that it

1923
01:13:16,870 --> 01:13:15,760
matters that it changes

1924
01:13:19,590 --> 01:13:16,880
the way

1925
01:13:22,070 --> 01:13:19,600
our physical universe interacts

1926
01:13:25,030 --> 01:13:22,080
based upon the awareness i'll say or

1927
01:13:28,630 --> 01:13:25,040
consciousness of an individual

1928
01:13:30,709 --> 01:13:28,640
is it possible that that occurs in ways

1929
01:13:32,870 --> 01:13:30,719
we are yet to understand

1930
01:13:35,189 --> 01:13:32,880
on a macro level

1931
01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:35,199
does it specifically

1932
01:13:39,189 --> 01:13:36,480
relate to

1933
01:13:42,149 --> 01:13:39,199
the viewing of ufos

1934
01:13:45,590 --> 01:13:42,159
and the phenomenon which includes ufos

1935
01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:45,600
but is broader than ufos

1936
01:13:49,270 --> 01:13:47,040
you know i

1937
01:13:52,709 --> 01:13:49,280
i don't know if it's

1938
01:13:54,870 --> 01:13:52,719
viewed back at me right because maybe

1939
01:13:58,790 --> 01:13:54,880
i'm just spending more time

1940
01:14:01,189 --> 01:13:58,800
looking up right so i don't really know

1941
01:14:03,110 --> 01:14:01,199
if it if there is that dialogue that

1942
01:14:04,390 --> 01:14:03,120
occurs like a lot of people

1943
01:14:06,550 --> 01:14:04,400
uh claim

1944
01:14:07,750 --> 01:14:06,560
that they've experienced maybe maybe

1945
01:14:10,790 --> 01:14:07,760
it's true

1946
01:14:14,310 --> 01:14:10,800
but i will say that i've always wanted

1947
01:14:17,110 --> 01:14:14,320
to see a ufo i've always wanted to see a

1948
01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:17,120
mother ship a bob lazar flying sasha i

1949
01:14:21,430 --> 01:14:19,360
mean who wouldn't yeah and i would also

1950
01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:21,440
love to ride in one you know that would

1951
01:14:29,030 --> 01:14:25,760
be cool uh i i will say that

1952
01:14:30,790 --> 01:14:29,040
i did see a ufo finally

1953
01:14:32,950 --> 01:14:30,800
after all these years

1954
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:32,960
undeniable

1955
01:14:41,669 --> 01:14:39,360
that is impossible something that just

1956
01:14:43,189 --> 01:14:41,679
doesn't it just doesn't exist i just you

1957
01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:43,199
know that we have

1958
01:14:47,510 --> 01:14:45,040
and and luckily i saw it with a good

1959
01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:47,520
friend who is way more credible than me

1960
01:14:52,630 --> 01:14:49,600
and so maybe you'll hear more about that

1961
01:14:54,950 --> 01:14:52,640
later i don't know i got lucky and but i

1962
01:14:57,830 --> 01:14:54,960
was very dissatisfied you know because i

1963
01:15:00,070 --> 01:14:57,840
wanted to see a specific kind of ufo you

1964
01:15:01,830 --> 01:15:00,080
know yeah i want to see a saucer a

1965
01:15:03,910 --> 01:15:01,840
mothership you know i take so many

1966
01:15:05,750 --> 01:15:03,920
accounts every week from people who i

1967
01:15:07,030 --> 01:15:05,760
never report on but they tell me and

1968
01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:07,040
they're credible witnesses from our

1969
01:15:11,990 --> 01:15:09,520
military or law enforcement they've had

1970
01:15:13,990 --> 01:15:12,000
incredible encounters and sure i would i

1971
01:15:16,790 --> 01:15:14,000
would love that one day so i don't know

1972
01:15:17,510 --> 01:15:16,800
does the phenomenon look back at you you

1973
01:15:19,110 --> 01:15:17,520
know

1974
01:15:20,470 --> 01:15:19,120
i would hope so we all want a little bit

1975
01:15:21,990 --> 01:15:20,480
of attention from that which we're

1976
01:15:23,350 --> 01:15:22,000
looking at right it's like when you see

1977
01:15:26,550 --> 01:15:23,360
a beautiful girl and you're really

1978
01:15:28,149 --> 01:15:26,560
hoping that they see you too

1979
01:15:30,229 --> 01:15:28,159
do you know to the opposite of that

1980
01:15:32,070 --> 01:15:30,239
effect of someone wanting to see it it

1981
01:15:33,830 --> 01:15:32,080
made me think hollywood example of the

1982
01:15:35,990 --> 01:15:33,840
end of the truman show where he's been

1983
01:15:38,070 --> 01:15:36,000
observed the whole time and when he

1984
01:15:39,510 --> 01:15:38,080
starts to notice they'll they let him

1985
01:15:41,350 --> 01:15:39,520
away with it you know is he looking at

1986
01:15:43,590 --> 01:15:41,360
the camera is he doing this and it's

1987
01:15:45,430 --> 01:15:43,600
fine but when he starts when the

1988
01:15:50,950 --> 01:15:45,440
observer

1989
01:15:52,390 --> 01:15:50,960
when he's on that boat going across the

1990
01:15:53,669 --> 01:15:52,400
water and they're like hitting with the

1991
01:15:54,790 --> 01:15:53,679
lightning hit them in the water hitting

1992
01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:54,800
with the waves

1993
01:15:58,070 --> 01:15:56,640
as that and in essence you know you'll

1994
01:15:59,750 --> 01:15:58,080
get a bit of pushback and that could be

1995
01:16:01,750 --> 01:15:59,760
that hitchhiking effect your friend

1996
01:16:03,350 --> 01:16:01,760
george knapp has talked about and are we

1997
01:16:04,630 --> 01:16:03,360
at that point where it's it's pushing

1998
01:16:06,229 --> 01:16:04,640
back a little bit because we're not

1999
01:16:08,470 --> 01:16:06,239
supposed to be observing as much as we

2000
01:16:10,070 --> 01:16:08,480
are and i suppose the question then is

2001
01:16:11,669 --> 01:16:10,080
do we get across the water to the other

2002
01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:11,679
side to that door and see what's on the

2003
01:16:16,229 --> 01:16:13,360
other side of it

2004
01:16:18,229 --> 01:16:16,239
it's a extremely fascinating question

2005
01:16:20,470 --> 01:16:18,239
that you just put forward

2006
01:16:23,189 --> 01:16:20,480
it's this idea that

2007
01:16:25,910 --> 01:16:23,199
whoever these visitors are whatever they

2008
01:16:29,189 --> 01:16:25,920
represent they could reveal themselves

2009
01:16:31,910 --> 01:16:29,199
at any time right so here we are where

2010
01:16:34,950 --> 01:16:31,920
obviously there are moments when the

2011
01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:34,960
phenomenon reveals itself and and it it

2012
01:16:40,070 --> 01:16:37,840
shows look up like a performance it

2013
01:16:41,430 --> 01:16:40,080
shows you what it wants you to see is is

2014
01:16:42,470 --> 01:16:41,440
what it appears

2015
01:16:44,470 --> 01:16:42,480
so

2016
01:16:46,709 --> 01:16:44,480
this idea that you know look that you

2017
01:16:48,709 --> 01:16:46,719
know that one of these craft could come

2018
01:16:50,310 --> 01:16:48,719
a mother ship hover over the white house

2019
01:16:52,630 --> 01:16:50,320
like independence day hopefully not

2020
01:16:53,590 --> 01:16:52,640
blowing it up you know but it's like

2021
01:16:56,070 --> 01:16:53,600
they

2022
01:16:59,110 --> 01:16:56,080
whoever operates these craft obviously

2023
01:17:01,510 --> 01:16:59,120
are in control they're in total control

2024
01:17:04,630 --> 01:17:01,520
there are times when it's like a car

2025
01:17:06,470 --> 01:17:04,640
crash bam you just you stumble upon it

2026
01:17:08,070 --> 01:17:06,480
this is something that a lot of people

2027
01:17:10,870 --> 01:17:08,080
have experienced that they're not into

2028
01:17:13,030 --> 01:17:10,880
ufos they never read a ufo book and bam

2029
01:17:14,310 --> 01:17:13,040
they just see this and experience this

2030
01:17:15,270 --> 01:17:14,320
encounter

2031
01:17:20,070 --> 01:17:15,280
so

2032
01:17:22,310 --> 01:17:20,080
phenomenon off guard

2033
01:17:25,750 --> 01:17:22,320
and that's really interesting there's

2034
01:17:29,030 --> 01:17:25,760
other times that that are definitively

2035
01:17:31,270 --> 01:17:29,040
the ufo phenomenon can be baited

2036
01:17:32,709 --> 01:17:31,280
and it it takes something really

2037
01:17:34,950 --> 01:17:32,719
um

2038
01:17:37,910 --> 01:17:34,960
interesting to be able to do that right

2039
01:17:39,990 --> 01:17:37,920
but but the phenomenon can be baited

2040
01:17:41,110 --> 01:17:40,000
this is something that's been tested

2041
01:17:42,630 --> 01:17:41,120
and it's something that that was

2042
01:17:45,590 --> 01:17:42,640
successful

2043
01:17:47,910 --> 01:17:45,600
every time so

2044
01:17:49,669 --> 01:17:47,920
i don't know man is the you know kind of

2045
01:17:52,229 --> 01:17:49,679
the bigger question

2046
01:17:56,030 --> 01:17:52,239
is there some sort of

2047
01:17:59,110 --> 01:17:56,040
resistance to be known or or

2048
01:18:01,030 --> 01:17:59,120
obfuscation that occurs from

2049
01:18:03,030 --> 01:18:01,040
i don't know the visitors like whoever's

2050
01:18:04,950 --> 01:18:03,040
operating or piloting these craft

2051
01:18:09,189 --> 01:18:04,960
i i would say they are

2052
01:18:13,590 --> 01:18:09,199
highly aware of our technology highly

2053
01:18:15,510 --> 01:18:13,600
aware of our ability to to document

2054
01:18:19,110 --> 01:18:15,520
their performance and there have been

2055
01:18:20,790 --> 01:18:19,120
evasive maneuvers that are very uh

2056
01:18:23,510 --> 01:18:20,800
verifiable

2057
01:18:25,990 --> 01:18:23,520
where where these objects

2058
01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:26,000
or whatever it represents

2059
01:18:30,870 --> 01:18:29,280
does not appear to want to be seen or

2060
01:18:33,910 --> 01:18:30,880
documented in the same way i know that's

2061
01:18:35,669 --> 01:18:33,920
really hard for people to to just take

2062
01:18:37,510 --> 01:18:35,679
you know right off the bat but it's

2063
01:18:39,350 --> 01:18:37,520
something that i am uh convinced of at

2064
01:18:41,189 --> 01:18:39,360
this point yeah

2065
01:18:42,870 --> 01:18:41,199
and that baiting obviously you're aware

2066
01:18:44,709 --> 01:18:42,880
of what that is most obvious seem to go

2067
01:18:46,470 --> 01:18:44,719
along the lines of it's some form of

2068
01:18:49,430 --> 01:18:46,480
nuclear material and that's why these

2069
01:18:51,350 --> 01:18:49,440
objects hang around huge huge u.s navy

2070
01:18:55,189 --> 01:18:51,360
vessels and warships because they're

2071
01:18:57,110 --> 01:18:55,199
they've got that nuclear capability

2072
01:19:00,149 --> 01:18:57,120
there's a there's a huge correlation

2073
01:19:02,310 --> 01:19:00,159
between our ability to deploy nuclear

2074
01:19:05,910 --> 01:19:02,320
weapons and the phenomenon itself and

2075
01:19:09,270 --> 01:19:05,920
that has occurred since the initial test

2076
01:19:10,470 --> 01:19:09,280
of our nuclear weapons moving on jeremy

2077
01:19:12,870 --> 01:19:10,480
we've got a lot of questions still to

2078
01:19:15,030 --> 01:19:12,880
get through adam asks um that there is a

2079
01:19:17,350 --> 01:19:15,040
rumor that harry reid left your friend

2080
01:19:19,590 --> 01:19:17,360
george knapp a video to be released upon

2081
01:19:22,390 --> 01:19:19,600
his death and or around that time have

2082
01:19:25,189 --> 01:19:22,400
you heard any anything of those rumors

2083
01:19:26,870 --> 01:19:25,199
that that is incorrect that is incorrect

2084
01:19:28,709 --> 01:19:26,880
george would have released it if that

2085
01:19:31,990 --> 01:19:28,719
was the case

2086
01:19:34,310 --> 01:19:32,000
sure uh ryan terry goes straight in with

2087
01:19:36,950 --> 01:19:34,320
jeremy what is your best guess of what

2088
01:19:39,030 --> 01:19:36,960
the phenomenon is and actually i've

2089
01:19:41,910 --> 01:19:39,040
narrowed it down a little bit too that's

2090
01:19:44,390 --> 01:19:41,920
quite a big question what do you think

2091
01:19:45,430 --> 01:19:44,400
is behind the buzzing of these us navy

2092
01:19:47,110 --> 01:19:45,440
videos

2093
01:19:48,310 --> 01:19:47,120
are these u.s navy ships and these

2094
01:19:51,910 --> 01:19:48,320
videos

2095
01:19:53,590 --> 01:19:51,920
yeah so we don't know what's behind the

2096
01:19:55,990 --> 01:19:53,600
buzzing of these

2097
01:19:56,790 --> 01:19:56,000
you know navy ships in 2019 we don't

2098
01:19:59,510 --> 01:19:56,800
know

2099
01:20:01,910 --> 01:19:59,520
what's behind the the tick tock ufo

2100
01:20:03,669 --> 01:20:01,920
event series ufos

2101
01:20:04,630 --> 01:20:03,679
event series right

2102
01:20:06,950 --> 01:20:04,640
so

2103
01:20:08,629 --> 01:20:06,960
with with both of these cases

2104
01:20:10,709 --> 01:20:08,639
the in the tic tac case you have

2105
01:20:11,830 --> 01:20:10,719
commander fravor and he's seeing this

2106
01:20:14,070 --> 01:20:11,840
object

2107
01:20:15,110 --> 01:20:14,080
and it's it's moving over

2108
01:20:45,189 --> 01:20:15,120
a

2109
01:20:46,950 --> 01:20:45,199
the first recorded interview

2110
01:20:49,510 --> 01:20:46,960
it was that they appeared to be like

2111
01:20:51,189 --> 01:20:49,520
docking with whatever was there but just

2112
01:20:52,470 --> 01:20:51,199
above the surface

2113
01:20:55,270 --> 01:20:52,480
i don't know what that means but that

2114
01:20:56,390 --> 01:20:55,280
was the impression now the tic tac

2115
01:20:58,310 --> 01:20:56,400
although there were

2116
01:21:00,629 --> 01:20:58,320
many tic tacs over like a nine day

2117
01:21:01,910 --> 01:21:00,639
period that were recorded by many visual

2118
01:21:05,189 --> 01:21:01,920
systems

2119
01:21:08,709 --> 01:21:05,199
it was like moving as if you'd shake a

2120
01:21:10,950 --> 01:21:08,719
ping-pong ball on an empty glass

2121
01:21:13,830 --> 01:21:10,960
back and forth completely

2122
01:21:15,590 --> 01:21:13,840
void of any effects of inertia right so

2123
01:21:17,669 --> 01:21:15,600
normally things would explode or

2124
01:21:19,910 --> 01:21:17,679
whatever so this thing is moving in a

2125
01:21:21,990 --> 01:21:19,920
way that is so erratic and strange but

2126
01:21:24,229 --> 01:21:22,000
back and forward back and forward

2127
01:21:26,229 --> 01:21:24,239
and then came up and mirrored the craft

2128
01:21:27,590 --> 01:21:26,239
of commander fragrant when he went down

2129
01:21:30,229 --> 01:21:27,600
to engage

2130
01:21:36,870 --> 01:21:31,750
i don't know

2131
01:21:39,110 --> 01:21:36,880
these events but but i do know

2132
01:21:41,830 --> 01:21:39,120
that whatever is behind these events

2133
01:21:44,229 --> 01:21:41,840
that the the ufos as we call them or the

2134
01:21:47,110 --> 01:21:44,239
craft as i would call them

2135
01:21:48,550 --> 01:21:47,120
that they display properties and this is

2136
01:21:50,709 --> 01:21:48,560
from eyewitness testimony from

2137
01:21:53,750 --> 01:21:50,719
classified documents from unclassified

2138
01:21:55,590 --> 01:21:53,760
documents as well as just from uh you

2139
01:21:56,550 --> 01:21:55,600
know cumulative information

2140
01:22:00,149 --> 01:21:56,560
that

2141
01:22:02,709 --> 01:22:00,159
something

2142
01:22:06,390 --> 01:22:02,719
whatever they're doing i don't know but

2143
01:22:09,669 --> 01:22:06,400
definitely in 2019 it was a performance

2144
01:22:12,870 --> 01:22:09,679
or a display it was very obvious

2145
01:22:14,950 --> 01:22:12,880
and it was uh to just push the edge

2146
01:22:16,709 --> 01:22:14,960
that's what these things were doing and

2147
01:22:19,669 --> 01:22:16,719
no they're not russian they're not

2148
01:22:21,350 --> 01:22:19,679
chinese drones this is something more

2149
01:22:23,430 --> 01:22:21,360
unusual than that

2150
01:22:24,950 --> 01:22:23,440
what do you think of the idea that the

2151
01:22:26,709 --> 01:22:24,960
the tic-tac above the water and the

2152
01:22:29,270 --> 01:22:26,719
object underneath that the two objects

2153
01:22:32,629 --> 01:22:29,280
were both uh massive whales that were

2154
01:22:35,910 --> 01:22:34,229
flying whales

2155
01:22:37,830 --> 01:22:35,920
under the water under the water though

2156
01:22:39,350 --> 01:22:37,840
that if those two if those large objects

2157
01:22:41,030 --> 01:22:39,360
maybe the tic tac was observing

2158
01:22:43,189 --> 01:22:41,040
something and it just at that height it

2159
01:22:44,709 --> 01:22:43,199
looked like an object or do you think

2160
01:22:47,430 --> 01:22:44,719
there's enough data that would indicate

2161
01:22:48,950 --> 01:22:47,440
no there was something solid oh no yeah

2162
01:22:50,790 --> 01:22:48,960
there's certainly enough

2163
01:22:53,189 --> 01:22:50,800
data that was what was under the water

2164
01:22:56,229 --> 01:22:53,199
what cross-shaped was not a natural

2165
01:22:57,830 --> 01:22:56,239
phenomenon yeah like like an animal yeah

2166
01:22:59,510 --> 01:22:57,840
yeah no that that's something i'd heard

2167
01:23:01,350 --> 01:22:59,520
put to us before but yeah that the tech

2168
01:23:03,030 --> 01:23:01,360
that was potentially observing

2169
01:23:04,950 --> 01:23:03,040
people people just say

2170
01:23:06,470 --> 01:23:04,960
say whatever comes into their head and

2171
01:23:08,149 --> 01:23:06,480
you know they're on twitter and they can

2172
01:23:10,229 --> 01:23:08,159
just say whatever comes into their head

2173
01:23:12,310 --> 01:23:10,239
the the evidence doesn't support that

2174
01:23:14,229 --> 01:23:12,320
you know that that's a a data poor

2175
01:23:16,390 --> 01:23:14,239
perspective when the data rich

2176
01:23:18,390 --> 01:23:16,400
perspective is looking at the totality

2177
01:23:20,470 --> 01:23:18,400
of the information you know this is the

2178
01:23:22,550 --> 01:23:20,480
problem with the neurosis of the

2179
01:23:24,470 --> 01:23:22,560
conspiracy theorist debunkers you know

2180
01:23:26,070 --> 01:23:24,480
which is that oh there's a glare on the

2181
01:23:27,910 --> 01:23:26,080
windshield and then all of a sudden

2182
01:23:30,229 --> 01:23:27,920
everybody saw the same glare at the same

2183
01:23:32,830 --> 01:23:30,239
time not only that but radar picked up

2184
01:23:36,070 --> 01:23:32,840
your glare if you look at the debunker's

2185
01:23:37,590 --> 01:23:36,080
perspective and you look at it soberly

2186
01:23:39,669 --> 01:23:37,600
it's disingenuous

2187
01:23:42,149 --> 01:23:39,679
straight up lying to you and then also

2188
01:23:45,030 --> 01:23:42,159
excluding information and data that

2189
01:23:46,070 --> 01:23:45,040
doesn't fit the perspective so it is a

2190
01:23:49,430 --> 01:23:46,080
literal

2191
01:23:51,350 --> 01:23:49,440
mental illness that you see

2192
01:23:54,390 --> 01:23:51,360
perpetrated on you on twitter and that

2193
01:23:55,830 --> 01:23:54,400
kind of thing by people if you accepted

2194
01:23:58,390 --> 01:23:55,840
what the debunkers would say about the

2195
01:24:00,470 --> 01:23:58,400
tic tac you would accept that there was

2196
01:24:02,629 --> 01:24:00,480
some sort of mental disease going on

2197
01:24:04,950 --> 01:24:02,639
with one pilot and then each other pilot

2198
01:24:06,149 --> 01:24:04,960
got it at the exact same time and that

2199
01:24:07,830 --> 01:24:06,159
they all saw like a glare in the

2200
01:24:10,070 --> 01:24:07,840
windshield at the same time and the

2201
01:24:12,550 --> 01:24:10,080
radars picked up that glare as well as

2202
01:24:15,030 --> 01:24:12,560
the other optics and other radar systems

2203
01:24:17,110 --> 01:24:15,040
that were not on that specific location

2204
01:24:18,470 --> 01:24:17,120
that we're you know through the asa

2205
01:24:21,669 --> 01:24:18,480
putting all the information together

2206
01:24:22,790 --> 01:24:21,679
it's absolute absurdity if you don't get

2207
01:24:24,470 --> 01:24:22,800
that yet

2208
01:24:26,709 --> 01:24:24,480
then you are not looking at the

2209
01:24:29,910 --> 01:24:26,719
information the debunking of these

2210
01:24:32,149 --> 01:24:29,920
events is absolute frivolous absurdity

2211
01:24:34,310 --> 01:24:32,159
it is mental gymnastics to the point

2212
01:24:36,310 --> 01:24:34,320
where it's worthy of a gold medal and if

2213
01:24:38,870 --> 01:24:36,320
you give it that mental space then

2214
01:24:40,229 --> 01:24:38,880
really honestly it's a waste of time i'm

2215
01:24:42,229 --> 01:24:40,239
sorry

2216
01:24:44,470 --> 01:24:42,239
next up simon had a good question

2217
01:24:46,629 --> 01:24:44,480
hopefully it's a good answer has jeremy

2218
01:24:48,470 --> 01:24:46,639
seen or heard of the gun cam footage

2219
01:24:50,790 --> 01:24:48,480
from the phoenix lights incident that

2220
01:24:52,470 --> 01:24:50,800
was mentioned in the jj abrams ufo

2221
01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:52,480
documentary

2222
01:24:57,910 --> 01:24:55,440
i am unaware of any uh footage other

2223
01:24:59,750 --> 01:24:57,920
than what is public at this time that is

2224
01:25:01,110 --> 01:24:59,760
uh as compelling as the footage that's

2225
01:25:02,870 --> 01:25:01,120
public at this time

2226
01:25:05,590 --> 01:25:02,880
yeah i hadn't heard of that either or

2227
01:25:07,430 --> 01:25:05,600
seen anything to that to that cause

2228
01:25:09,590 --> 01:25:07,440
hey but look whoever said it they heard

2229
01:25:10,870 --> 01:25:09,600
about it so go fight for it and get it

2230
01:25:13,830 --> 01:25:10,880
to us

2231
01:25:15,910 --> 01:25:13,840
yeah absolutely james mitchell asks from

2232
01:25:18,229 --> 01:25:15,920
what you have seen collected and not yet

2233
01:25:21,990 --> 01:25:18,239
released do you think it's possible to

2234
01:25:23,750 --> 01:25:22,000
acquire high quality uap data outside of

2235
01:25:26,470 --> 01:25:23,760
the government what equipment do you

2236
01:25:28,229 --> 01:25:26,480
think needs to be used and also what do

2237
01:25:30,870 --> 01:25:28,239
you think of the work of organizations

2238
01:25:34,390 --> 01:25:30,880
like uepx

2239
01:25:37,750 --> 01:25:34,400
i think any work to document and you

2240
01:25:38,870 --> 01:25:37,760
know film the ufo phenomenon is a worthy

2241
01:25:41,110 --> 01:25:38,880
effort

2242
01:25:42,870 --> 01:25:41,120
i think we now have consumer grade

2243
01:25:45,110 --> 01:25:42,880
products that are just incredible you

2244
01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:45,120
can get a camera have it retrofitted

2245
01:25:49,510 --> 01:25:47,040
into the ultraviolet range as well as

2246
01:25:51,750 --> 01:25:49,520
the the infrared range which are both

2247
01:25:54,550 --> 01:25:51,760
outside of the visual range that you'd

2248
01:25:57,110 --> 01:25:54,560
normally capture on cameras so uh the

2249
01:25:59,430 --> 01:25:57,120
equipment that should be used is is one

2250
01:26:00,790 --> 01:25:59,440
question the other is am i hopeful for

2251
01:26:02,470 --> 01:26:00,800
you know

2252
01:26:04,550 --> 01:26:02,480
footage and video that will be coming

2253
01:26:06,950 --> 01:26:04,560
out in the civilian room like absolutely

2254
01:26:09,830 --> 01:26:06,960
but look the the fact is our military

2255
01:26:12,870 --> 01:26:09,840
has the best toys our military has the

2256
01:26:16,070 --> 01:26:12,880
best and most expensive you know toys

2257
01:26:19,110 --> 01:26:16,080
that can target and record this stuff

2258
01:26:20,950 --> 01:26:19,120
but consumer-graded uh you know quality

2259
01:26:23,189 --> 01:26:20,960
of of uh

2260
01:26:26,390 --> 01:26:23,199
material and devices is getting so much

2261
01:26:28,709 --> 01:26:26,400
better that i am optimistic that

2262
01:26:32,310 --> 01:26:28,719
uh there will be multiple vantage points

2263
01:26:35,510 --> 01:26:32,320
of the same event documented in multiple

2264
01:26:38,310 --> 01:26:35,520
spectrums that then can be used to help

2265
01:26:40,790 --> 01:26:38,320
illuminate uh the ufo presence to some

2266
01:26:42,070 --> 01:26:40,800
degree yeah i think i'm very optimistic

2267
01:26:44,229 --> 01:26:42,080
for it yeah

2268
01:26:46,310 --> 01:26:44,239
what about the galileo project led by

2269
01:26:48,310 --> 01:26:46,320
avi loeb at harvard

2270
01:26:49,990 --> 01:26:48,320
yeah i think it's great man again

2271
01:26:53,110 --> 01:26:50,000
anything that is looking at the ufo

2272
01:26:55,910 --> 01:26:53,120
phenomenon on every level from just you

2273
01:26:57,590 --> 01:26:55,920
know scientific to from the civilian

2274
01:26:59,990 --> 01:26:57,600
world i think it's it's all really

2275
01:27:01,590 --> 01:27:00,000
important you know i would say it's kind

2276
01:27:03,990 --> 01:27:01,600
of disheartening everybody's trying to

2277
01:27:05,990 --> 01:27:04,000
reinvent the wheel you know you create

2278
01:27:08,950 --> 01:27:06,000
these optic systems and you're looking

2279
01:27:11,830 --> 01:27:08,960
up to the sky through an atmosphere

2280
01:27:13,750 --> 01:27:11,840
we have weapons-based platforms that are

2281
01:27:17,030 --> 01:27:13,760
in orbit right now that have a

2282
01:27:19,510 --> 01:27:17,040
technology that is so astounding that

2283
01:27:21,510 --> 01:27:19,520
you can read the label of a soda can

2284
01:27:23,750 --> 01:27:21,520
from outer space we've had that for

2285
01:27:25,750 --> 01:27:23,760
decades so it's sad that we have to

2286
01:27:27,270 --> 01:27:25,760
continuously reinvent the wheel but at

2287
01:27:29,990 --> 01:27:27,280
the same time

2288
01:27:32,229 --> 01:27:30,000
maybe you just need a wheel that bad

2289
01:27:34,790 --> 01:27:32,239
and speaking of those types of wheels or

2290
01:27:38,070 --> 01:27:34,800
that technology um the bearded ufo guy

2291
01:27:40,070 --> 01:27:38,080
gaz asks do you think any technology we

2292
01:27:46,709 --> 01:27:40,080
see and use today could have come from

2293
01:27:51,270 --> 01:27:49,030
yes

2294
01:27:53,910 --> 01:27:51,280
any particular genres of technology or

2295
01:27:55,830 --> 01:27:53,920
anything you would care to name

2296
01:27:57,350 --> 01:27:55,840
the material science

2297
01:27:58,310 --> 01:27:57,360
so so the uh

2298
01:27:59,510 --> 01:27:58,320
are

2299
01:28:02,229 --> 01:27:59,520
some of our

2300
01:28:04,550 --> 01:28:02,239
understanding of material science and

2301
01:28:07,669 --> 01:28:04,560
how to do atomic layering

2302
01:28:10,550 --> 01:28:07,679
uh how to create meta materials such as

2303
01:28:13,030 --> 01:28:10,560
like graphene is a great example um that

2304
01:28:15,110 --> 01:28:13,040
was just used with scotch tape on

2305
01:28:17,510 --> 01:28:15,120
basically a pencil led i think but it

2306
01:28:18,870 --> 01:28:17,520
was like you know it's a superconductor

2307
01:28:20,709 --> 01:28:18,880
and so it's really cool if you hold a

2308
01:28:22,629 --> 01:28:20,719
piece of graphene and you push it into

2309
01:28:24,310 --> 01:28:22,639
an ice cube it instantly sinks in like a

2310
01:28:26,149 --> 01:28:24,320
hot knife through butter and then bam

2311
01:28:27,830 --> 01:28:26,159
your hand gets cold and it stops dead in

2312
01:28:29,830 --> 01:28:27,840
its tracks and depending on the

2313
01:28:31,910 --> 01:28:29,840
orientation of atoms

2314
01:28:34,310 --> 01:28:31,920
you can actually have more penetration

2315
01:28:36,870 --> 01:28:34,320
into the ice cube compared to less

2316
01:28:39,430 --> 01:28:36,880
i have two pieces of it myself one is a

2317
01:28:41,270 --> 01:28:39,440
three degree variant of atomic layering

2318
01:28:43,750 --> 01:28:41,280
and the other is like a seven degree

2319
01:28:46,470 --> 01:28:43,760
variant and you can see that its ability

2320
01:28:49,430 --> 01:28:46,480
to be a superconductor is much better

2321
01:28:53,270 --> 01:28:49,440
with perf more perfect atomic layering

2322
01:28:55,669 --> 01:28:53,280
so yeah it is possible and i do believe

2323
01:28:58,470 --> 01:28:55,679
that there and it's an informed belief

2324
01:29:01,189 --> 01:28:58,480
that there is material science that has

2325
01:29:04,149 --> 01:29:01,199
been uh generated from the reverse

2326
01:29:05,510 --> 01:29:04,159
engineering of alloys

2327
01:29:08,830 --> 01:29:05,520
that were

2328
01:29:11,030 --> 01:29:08,840
associated or parts of what we'd call

2329
01:29:13,110 --> 01:29:11,040
ufos i've been looking forward to this

2330
01:29:14,790 --> 01:29:13,120
next question i purposely didn't follow

2331
01:29:17,350 --> 01:29:14,800
up on something you said earlier because

2332
01:29:19,350 --> 01:29:17,360
i knew this one was coming up from mike

2333
01:29:22,390 --> 01:29:19,360
in your recent fox news segment you

2334
01:29:25,110 --> 01:29:22,400
talked about piloted craft what type of

2335
01:29:26,470 --> 01:29:25,120
evidence is there for this and like the

2336
01:29:29,110 --> 01:29:26,480
videos you've released are there

2337
01:29:31,110 --> 01:29:29,120
multiple data points

2338
01:29:33,350 --> 01:29:31,120
yeah there's a lot of data that goes

2339
01:29:34,950 --> 01:29:33,360
along with this some of which would be

2340
01:29:37,990 --> 01:29:34,960
you know kind of in the in the public

2341
01:29:40,229 --> 01:29:38,000
record let's start with the fundamentals

2342
01:29:42,070 --> 01:29:40,239
which is that when you have witness

2343
01:29:44,550 --> 01:29:42,080
testimony and and you and they talk

2344
01:29:46,629 --> 01:29:44,560
about occupants in the craft you know

2345
01:29:49,030 --> 01:29:46,639
that is something that's been with so if

2346
01:29:50,310 --> 01:29:49,040
you accept one thing that ufos are real

2347
01:29:52,709 --> 01:29:50,320
you start to accept well if people are

2348
01:29:55,030 --> 01:29:52,719
seeing ufos well are there other types

2349
01:29:55,910 --> 01:29:55,040
of encounters and yet of course there

2350
01:29:58,149 --> 01:29:55,920
are

2351
01:29:59,590 --> 01:29:58,159
multiple uh multiple i mean there's tons

2352
01:30:01,030 --> 01:29:59,600
of encounters where people talk about

2353
01:30:03,350 --> 01:30:01,040
their being beings think about the

2354
01:30:06,629 --> 01:30:03,360
aerial school where we have those

2355
01:30:07,910 --> 01:30:06,639
landings at the school and two of the

2356
01:30:10,870 --> 01:30:07,920
females

2357
01:30:12,950 --> 01:30:10,880
that were closest to the craft and to

2358
01:30:15,030 --> 01:30:12,960
the beings they both described the same

2359
01:30:16,870 --> 01:30:15,040
thing and and it's incredible beings

2360
01:30:19,750 --> 01:30:16,880
there but also just the design of the

2361
01:30:21,910 --> 01:30:19,760
craft themselves so if you are at the

2362
01:30:24,149 --> 01:30:21,920
point where you've read the new york

2363
01:30:26,470 --> 01:30:24,159
times and heard what has been said about

2364
01:30:27,189 --> 01:30:26,480
our exploitation programs which by the

2365
01:30:29,830 --> 01:30:27,199
way

2366
01:30:31,510 --> 01:30:29,840
there are exploitations regarding ufos

2367
01:30:34,390 --> 01:30:31,520
so that means like reverse engineering

2368
01:30:37,189 --> 01:30:34,400
and that kind of thing in every branch

2369
01:30:41,030 --> 01:30:37,199
of our military durationally

2370
01:30:43,750 --> 01:30:41,040
sap special access programs that deal

2371
01:30:47,350 --> 01:30:43,760
with all aspects of the ufo phenomenon

2372
01:30:49,990 --> 01:30:47,360
from visual sightings to imagery to

2373
01:30:52,550 --> 01:30:50,000
everything from language to biology to

2374
01:30:54,470 --> 01:30:52,560
chemistry it's pretty incredible and

2375
01:30:56,550 --> 01:30:54,480
look i'm you you'll just have to see

2376
01:30:59,030 --> 01:30:56,560
what time reveals about that but the

2377
01:31:01,990 --> 01:30:59,040
craft themselves the design of the craft

2378
01:31:03,990 --> 01:31:02,000
themselves are oftentimes indicators

2379
01:31:06,470 --> 01:31:04,000
that they are piloted in some way that

2380
01:31:08,070 --> 01:31:06,480
there are some sorts of beings on this

2381
01:31:11,189 --> 01:31:08,080
craft not just an artificial

2382
01:31:12,310 --> 01:31:11,199
intelligence but actual physical beings

2383
01:31:14,870 --> 01:31:12,320
now

2384
01:31:17,990 --> 01:31:14,880
if we go deeper into that

2385
01:31:19,430 --> 01:31:18,000
uh yeah i have been exposed to credible

2386
01:31:22,629 --> 01:31:19,440
information

2387
01:31:25,830 --> 01:31:22,639
that is not public that would uh suggest

2388
01:31:27,350 --> 01:31:25,840
and and would also corroborate that idea

2389
01:31:28,790 --> 01:31:27,360
and i think that anybody that's involved

2390
01:31:32,550 --> 01:31:28,800
in this long enough

2391
01:31:36,149 --> 01:31:32,560
would have to come to the determination

2392
01:31:37,510 --> 01:31:36,159
that if ufos are real in the sense of

2393
01:31:40,149 --> 01:31:37,520
machines

2394
01:31:41,350 --> 01:31:40,159
that are technologically advanced to

2395
01:31:43,750 --> 01:31:41,360
ours

2396
01:31:46,149 --> 01:31:43,760
somebody had to make them

2397
01:31:47,830 --> 01:31:46,159
some of them are piloted

2398
01:31:49,590 --> 01:31:47,840
some are scouts

2399
01:31:52,550 --> 01:31:49,600
some are small

2400
01:31:55,990 --> 01:31:52,560
and some are giant

2401
01:31:59,510 --> 01:31:56,000
john asks regarding ufos seen underwater

2402
01:32:03,270 --> 01:31:59,520
or usos do these actively engage with

2403
01:32:05,750 --> 01:32:03,280
u.s ships or submarines under the water

2404
01:32:07,430 --> 01:32:05,760
do they actively engage okay there's a

2405
01:32:09,750 --> 01:32:07,440
difference between passive engagement

2406
01:32:13,110 --> 01:32:09,760
and active engagement um

2407
01:32:16,149 --> 01:32:13,120
do they actively engage

2408
01:32:18,390 --> 01:32:16,159
well ufos have been picked up

2409
01:32:21,110 --> 01:32:18,400
not only by submarines

2410
01:32:22,470 --> 01:32:21,120
but by a complex

2411
01:32:23,270 --> 01:32:22,480
series

2412
01:32:24,870 --> 01:32:23,280
of

2413
01:32:27,910 --> 01:32:24,880
reconnaissance

2414
01:32:30,310 --> 01:32:27,920
technology that we have linked

2415
01:32:33,590 --> 01:32:30,320
all around our oceans so

2416
01:32:35,350 --> 01:32:33,600
so i mean the answer is yes in that

2417
01:32:37,430 --> 01:32:35,360
there's

2418
01:32:41,990 --> 01:32:37,440
ufos under the water just as much as

2419
01:32:45,270 --> 01:32:43,350
i found it quite interesting when i

2420
01:32:47,030 --> 01:32:45,280
spoke to luella zondo last week i asked

2421
01:32:49,270 --> 01:32:47,040
the question about why do these objects

2422
01:32:50,950 --> 01:32:49,280
appear to go much slower when they're

2423
01:32:53,189 --> 01:32:50,960
underneath the water than they do when

2424
01:32:54,790 --> 01:32:53,199
they're in the sky potentially and he

2425
01:32:56,870 --> 01:32:54,800
mentioned that's more than likely due to

2426
01:32:59,110 --> 01:32:56,880
our technology only being able to pick

2427
01:33:01,430 --> 01:32:59,120
up certain speeds and that they

2428
01:33:02,709 --> 01:33:01,440
literally do go a lot faster than what

2429
01:33:04,870 --> 01:33:02,719
we're actually picking them up and it's

2430
01:33:06,950 --> 01:33:04,880
our limitations which was a pretty

2431
01:33:09,590 --> 01:33:06,960
interesting answer that's it that's a

2432
01:33:11,669 --> 01:33:09,600
very accurate answer but by lou you know

2433
01:33:14,149 --> 01:33:11,679
he's always on point that is a very

2434
01:33:16,470 --> 01:33:14,159
specific accurate answer you should take

2435
01:33:19,189 --> 01:33:16,480
that one to the bank oh i have yeah i've

2436
01:33:20,870 --> 01:33:19,199
cashed it in um next up dave smathers

2437
01:33:23,110 --> 01:33:20,880
asks you've mentioned at least four

2438
01:33:25,430 --> 01:33:23,120
other uap programs running at the same

2439
01:33:27,910 --> 01:33:25,440
time as ossap can you tell us any more

2440
01:33:31,350 --> 01:33:27,920
about those

2441
01:33:33,590 --> 01:33:31,360
i'm not sure those were my exact words

2442
01:33:35,669 --> 01:33:33,600
by the way but uh no i can't tell you

2443
01:33:37,830 --> 01:33:35,679
anything more about that and again i

2444
01:33:39,030 --> 01:33:37,840
think the the more important uh thing to

2445
01:33:41,750 --> 01:33:39,040
take away

2446
01:33:46,070 --> 01:33:41,760
is that there are active

2447
01:33:49,430 --> 01:33:46,080
ufo exploitation programs in every

2448
01:33:52,470 --> 01:33:49,440
branch of our military and intelligence

2449
01:33:55,669 --> 01:33:52,480
protected under sap special actives

2450
01:33:57,350 --> 01:33:55,679
program sometimes they are

2451
01:34:00,790 --> 01:33:57,360
moved into

2452
01:34:02,149 --> 01:34:00,800
private industry not only to avoid

2453
01:34:05,669 --> 01:34:02,159
uh

2454
01:34:08,790 --> 01:34:05,679
foia and freedom of information acts

2455
01:34:12,310 --> 01:34:08,800
but also because the technologies that

2456
01:34:14,229 --> 01:34:12,320
we need to analyze and interrogate some

2457
01:34:17,350 --> 01:34:14,239
of these materials

2458
01:34:19,270 --> 01:34:17,360
craft or otherwise

2459
01:34:21,350 --> 01:34:19,280
they are best

2460
01:34:23,030 --> 01:34:21,360
held and utilized by

2461
01:34:24,629 --> 01:34:23,040
by some of the makers by people that are

2462
01:34:27,510 --> 01:34:24,639
in private industry

2463
01:34:31,030 --> 01:34:29,110
yeah

2464
01:34:33,189 --> 01:34:31,040
stopping with that one there okay

2465
01:34:35,750 --> 01:34:33,199
yeah i don't yeah i'm not sure what else

2466
01:34:38,870 --> 01:34:35,760
to say about that at this time

2467
01:34:40,390 --> 01:34:38,880
i i will reiterate that there is a

2468
01:34:43,270 --> 01:34:40,400
repository

2469
01:34:45,430 --> 01:34:43,280
described to me as a museum of paper

2470
01:34:48,390 --> 01:34:45,440
right on the first level

2471
01:34:51,510 --> 01:34:48,400
at a location that has been accumulating

2472
01:34:54,550 --> 01:34:51,520
this information and data about ufos

2473
01:34:56,470 --> 01:34:54,560
again durationally so all the way back

2474
01:34:59,669 --> 01:34:56,480
before the beginning of project blue

2475
01:35:02,310 --> 01:34:59,679
book and i and it continues to this day

2476
01:35:03,510 --> 01:35:02,320
and it is a multiple agency

2477
01:35:04,950 --> 01:35:03,520
endeavor

2478
01:35:06,550 --> 01:35:04,960
and uh

2479
01:35:08,310 --> 01:35:06,560
i am sure of that

2480
01:35:10,709 --> 01:35:08,320
and that would be great if we get more

2481
01:35:12,629 --> 01:35:10,719
information about that which i intend to

2482
01:35:14,790 --> 01:35:12,639
do and put out

2483
01:35:17,750 --> 01:35:14,800
and hopefully that uap task force that's

2484
01:35:19,510 --> 01:35:17,760
getting set up or asro ay msg can get

2485
01:35:21,350 --> 01:35:19,520
hold of some of that information or is

2486
01:35:23,830 --> 01:35:21,360
that a bit of an issue

2487
01:35:26,070 --> 01:35:23,840
yeah it's gonna be really interesting

2488
01:35:29,669 --> 01:35:26,080
like uh i don't know how let's not go

2489
01:35:32,149 --> 01:35:29,679
too deep into the politics of it but

2490
01:35:33,590 --> 01:35:32,159
it was a the uap task force was a

2491
01:35:35,350 --> 01:35:33,600
temporary

2492
01:35:39,030 --> 01:35:35,360
uh situation

2493
01:35:40,830 --> 01:35:39,040
and it was staffed by

2494
01:35:42,950 --> 01:35:40,840
very few i want to say

2495
01:35:45,910 --> 01:35:42,960
individuals and they were doing their

2496
01:35:48,629 --> 01:35:45,920
best but they also had issues where

2497
01:35:50,709 --> 01:35:48,639
where people were trying to

2498
01:35:53,510 --> 01:35:50,719
alter their ability to get the

2499
01:35:56,070 --> 01:35:53,520
information through clearance levels so

2500
01:35:58,149 --> 01:35:56,080
there was a lot of issues with that and

2501
01:35:59,590 --> 01:35:58,159
and now you know congress and senate

2502
01:36:00,709 --> 01:35:59,600
screaming for

2503
01:36:01,830 --> 01:36:00,719
you know

2504
01:36:04,470 --> 01:36:01,840
the start of

2505
01:36:05,750 --> 01:36:04,480
a new era of transparency

2506
01:36:08,149 --> 01:36:05,760
really important

2507
01:36:11,270 --> 01:36:08,159
glad it's happening

2508
01:36:14,229 --> 01:36:11,280
but it's gonna be a an uphill battle but

2509
01:36:16,950 --> 01:36:14,239
a battle that we're all gonna fight

2510
01:36:19,590 --> 01:36:16,960
um chardell asks in a hypothetical

2511
01:36:21,910 --> 01:36:19,600
scenario if aliens landed and we

2512
01:36:23,750 --> 01:36:21,920
established proper communication are

2513
01:36:26,070 --> 01:36:23,760
there any burning questions you would

2514
01:36:29,590 --> 01:36:26,080
ask them and would you even be inclined

2515
01:36:33,990 --> 01:36:31,590
right would you be inclined to believe

2516
01:36:37,270 --> 01:36:34,000
those answers well we have this you know

2517
01:36:38,950 --> 01:36:37,280
long relationship with the occupants of

2518
01:36:40,629 --> 01:36:38,960
some of these craft that has been very

2519
01:36:43,669 --> 01:36:40,639
disingenuous i mean it's been something

2520
01:36:45,910 --> 01:36:43,679
where you you have a lot of falsehoods

2521
01:36:47,270 --> 01:36:45,920
being portrayed to people

2522
01:36:49,669 --> 01:36:47,280
so

2523
01:36:51,350 --> 01:36:49,679
would i be inclined to believe it what

2524
01:36:53,669 --> 01:36:51,360
depends what's shown to me i mean i i

2525
01:36:56,229 --> 01:36:53,679
would like to know obviously about what

2526
01:36:58,790 --> 01:36:56,239
that their technology has taught them

2527
01:37:01,510 --> 01:36:58,800
about the nature of the universe right

2528
01:37:04,790 --> 01:37:01,520
so the way that it's made up where are

2529
01:37:06,629 --> 01:37:04,800
we how how vast and expansive is this

2530
01:37:09,430 --> 01:37:06,639
how many other civilizations have been

2531
01:37:12,310 --> 01:37:09,440
able not only to achieve a level of

2532
01:37:14,790 --> 01:37:12,320
technological advancement but also like

2533
01:37:16,950 --> 01:37:14,800
who got the cheat sheet like are there

2534
01:37:18,870 --> 01:37:16,960
elements that are more abundant on

2535
01:37:20,629 --> 01:37:18,880
certain star systems that are heavier

2536
01:37:23,350 --> 01:37:20,639
elements that made it easier for them to

2537
01:37:25,510 --> 01:37:23,360
achieve gravitational propulsion i would

2538
01:37:26,790 --> 01:37:25,520
ask you know i would have so many cool

2539
01:37:28,070 --> 01:37:26,800
things i mean so many things that i

2540
01:37:30,070 --> 01:37:28,080
would like to know the answers to

2541
01:37:31,109 --> 01:37:30,080
because they would be cool

2542
01:37:33,189 --> 01:37:31,119
but

2543
01:37:36,709 --> 01:37:33,199
other than the answers to the kind of

2544
01:37:39,430 --> 01:37:36,719
fabric of reality and what we're seeing

2545
01:37:41,109 --> 01:37:39,440
what are we misunderstanding and so

2546
01:37:43,350 --> 01:37:41,119
that's something i'd really like to know

2547
01:37:45,990 --> 01:37:43,360
because we don't yet understand gravity

2548
01:37:48,790 --> 01:37:46,000
to to any degree so so it's like what

2549
01:37:51,510 --> 01:37:48,800
are we misunderstanding that is the and

2550
01:37:53,109 --> 01:37:51,520
my my last question would always be

2551
01:37:55,030 --> 01:37:53,119
what's the best question that i have

2552
01:37:56,629 --> 01:37:55,040
failed to ask because i ask that every

2553
01:37:58,550 --> 01:37:56,639
interview that i do

2554
01:38:01,510 --> 01:37:58,560
uh other than that

2555
01:38:03,109 --> 01:38:01,520
i i would like to find out if um aliens

2556
01:38:04,870 --> 01:38:03,119
have like beer

2557
01:38:06,950 --> 01:38:04,880
and what it tasted like and you know

2558
01:38:09,109 --> 01:38:06,960
anything like that what is their music

2559
01:38:11,270 --> 01:38:09,119
like what is the culture like in some of

2560
01:38:12,470 --> 01:38:11,280
these societies what do they hold

2561
01:38:14,470 --> 01:38:12,480
highest

2562
01:38:17,910 --> 01:38:14,480
when it comes to their existence what is

2563
01:38:20,470 --> 01:38:17,920
the goal or the aim of their existence

2564
01:38:23,030 --> 01:38:20,480
as a culture man i would i would be so

2565
01:38:24,550 --> 01:38:23,040
curious to have hopefully uh joe rogan's

2566
01:38:26,229 --> 01:38:24,560
going to interview an alien soon so

2567
01:38:27,669 --> 01:38:26,239
we'll get all those answers

2568
01:38:29,510 --> 01:38:27,679
do you know what i would love i'm at the

2569
01:38:31,350 --> 01:38:29,520
point i want the mystery to get deeper

2570
01:38:33,030 --> 01:38:31,360
where if the the hypothetical white

2571
01:38:35,189 --> 01:38:33,040
house lawn landing happened and some

2572
01:38:36,870 --> 01:38:35,199
aliens came out the flying saucer and we

2573
01:38:38,470 --> 01:38:36,880
showed them the pictures of the tic-tacs

2574
01:38:39,910 --> 01:38:38,480
and the black triangles and said so are

2575
01:38:41,990 --> 01:38:39,920
these yours and they went oh no we have

2576
01:38:43,510 --> 01:38:42,000
no idea what those are uh just like

2577
01:38:46,390 --> 01:38:43,520
there we go that would be that'd be a

2578
01:38:49,149 --> 01:38:46,400
good one taking up the levels um

2579
01:38:51,750 --> 01:38:49,159
two questions to go abby from

2580
01:38:53,830 --> 01:38:51,760
ufoidentified.co.uk hi abby can you

2581
01:38:55,990 --> 01:38:53,840
please ask jeremy what is his reaction

2582
01:38:58,229 --> 01:38:56,000
to some people's accusations of him

2583
01:39:00,390 --> 01:38:58,239
gatekeeping and drip feeding the

2584
01:39:03,510 --> 01:39:00,400
information he gets

2585
01:39:05,030 --> 01:39:03,520
gatekeeping and drip feeding

2586
01:39:07,430 --> 01:39:05,040
uh well

2587
01:39:10,229 --> 01:39:07,440
uh that is not true i'm not gate keeping

2588
01:39:11,750 --> 01:39:10,239
anything uh if i understand the question

2589
01:39:13,990 --> 01:39:11,760
i'm trying to get out as much

2590
01:39:15,830 --> 01:39:14,000
information as possible as rapidly as

2591
01:39:18,229 --> 01:39:15,840
possible but i need to make sure that

2592
01:39:20,470 --> 01:39:18,239
it's credible information i need to have

2593
01:39:22,709 --> 01:39:20,480
a robust understanding of it i need to

2594
01:39:24,310 --> 01:39:22,719
have multiple corroborative sources that

2595
01:39:26,390 --> 01:39:24,320
have all come together and said this is

2596
01:39:28,070 --> 01:39:26,400
true i can use my sources

2597
01:39:30,229 --> 01:39:28,080
you know within government within

2598
01:39:32,550 --> 01:39:30,239
agencies but also outside of government

2599
01:39:33,990 --> 01:39:32,560
and and i try and i vet it through other

2600
01:39:35,590 --> 01:39:34,000
journalists and through people that i

2601
01:39:38,790 --> 01:39:35,600
respect and know that they have good

2602
01:39:41,350 --> 01:39:38,800
connections so if anything i am working

2603
01:39:44,310 --> 01:39:41,360
my butt off to get information out to

2604
01:39:45,910 --> 01:39:44,320
the public so i know it's like annoying

2605
01:39:47,750 --> 01:39:45,920
when i say yeah i have more footage but

2606
01:39:50,070 --> 01:39:47,760
i do what am i going to do lie to you i

2607
01:39:52,149 --> 01:39:50,080
do but you have to understand if you've

2608
01:39:54,470 --> 01:39:52,159
ever done the type of work that i do

2609
01:39:56,950 --> 01:39:54,480
that you need to protect sources that

2610
01:39:58,629 --> 01:39:56,960
you cannot burn sources you also don't

2611
01:40:00,149 --> 01:39:58,639
want to be on the wrong side of the law

2612
01:40:01,910 --> 01:40:00,159
you also want to make sure you're not

2613
01:40:04,310 --> 01:40:01,920
getting bear trapped into false or

2614
01:40:07,189 --> 01:40:04,320
fictitious information and you also want

2615
01:40:09,510 --> 01:40:07,199
to make sure that you have the best

2616
01:40:11,910 --> 01:40:09,520
quality information to back up what you

2617
01:40:13,510 --> 01:40:11,920
put out so i'm not gatekeeping i don't

2618
01:40:15,830 --> 01:40:13,520
remember the exact words but i'm not

2619
01:40:18,470 --> 01:40:15,840
gatekeeping and i'm not holding back i

2620
01:40:20,310 --> 01:40:18,480
am pushing forward as hard as i can and

2621
01:40:22,149 --> 01:40:20,320
i'm doing it for for you but i'm also

2622
01:40:23,109 --> 01:40:22,159
doing it for me because i'm interested

2623
01:40:25,189 --> 01:40:23,119
in this and i want to hear what the

2624
01:40:27,270 --> 01:40:25,199
public has to say so that's kind of like

2625
01:40:28,790 --> 01:40:27,280
um you know i don't know praise and

2626
01:40:30,229 --> 01:40:28,800
blame is all the same people can say

2627
01:40:31,830 --> 01:40:30,239
whatever they want on twitter look me in

2628
01:40:33,669 --> 01:40:31,840
the eyes and say something

2629
01:40:36,310 --> 01:40:33,679
and you know what i i see some of the

2630
01:40:37,669 --> 01:40:36,320
abuse you and others get like lou and

2631
01:40:39,030 --> 01:40:37,679
chris mail and then anyone who's

2632
01:40:41,510 --> 01:40:39,040
involved in this subject whether you

2633
01:40:43,990 --> 01:40:41,520
agree or disagree with them like if you

2634
01:40:45,990 --> 01:40:44,000
put out your now famous uh high nun

2635
01:40:48,070 --> 01:40:46,000
announcements everyone jumps online to

2636
01:40:50,470 --> 01:40:48,080
your social medias your instagram your

2637
01:40:53,590 --> 01:40:50,480
twitter feeds and there is an element of

2638
01:40:55,350 --> 01:40:53,600
showmanship and drama to that but i

2639
01:40:57,430 --> 01:40:55,360
appreciate the fact that you know what

2640
01:41:00,310 --> 01:40:57,440
rather than just dropping an instagram

2641
01:41:01,910 --> 01:41:00,320
post or a tweet you're alerting as many

2642
01:41:04,550 --> 01:41:01,920
people as possible to there's going to

2643
01:41:06,629 --> 01:41:04,560
be information at this time if you all

2644
01:41:09,430 --> 01:41:06,639
want to see it be here and to me that

2645
01:41:11,910 --> 01:41:09,440
makes sense as opposed to a random tweet

2646
01:41:13,669 --> 01:41:11,920
at an unannounced time of day that says

2647
01:41:15,669 --> 01:41:13,679
here's a video

2648
01:41:17,590 --> 01:41:15,679
yeah well let's break that down a second

2649
01:41:19,030 --> 01:41:17,600
so like are you like let's say i had all

2650
01:41:20,790 --> 01:41:19,040
this footage and i was like i was gonna

2651
01:41:22,550 --> 01:41:20,800
rent a theater and charge people to come

2652
01:41:24,709 --> 01:41:22,560
into that theater to see me at first

2653
01:41:25,990 --> 01:41:24,719
that's ridiculous right people that do

2654
01:41:29,669 --> 01:41:26,000
things like that

2655
01:41:32,550 --> 01:41:29,679
um that's crazy so but but you need

2656
01:41:35,590 --> 01:41:32,560
so i i think everybody would agree

2657
01:41:37,350 --> 01:41:35,600
that you need to prepare people to pay

2658
01:41:39,109 --> 01:41:37,360
attention to something or it's going to

2659
01:41:41,669 --> 01:41:39,119
get lost in the wash

2660
01:41:43,669 --> 01:41:41,679
so announcing the time

2661
01:41:45,109 --> 01:41:43,679
the day before

2662
01:41:48,149 --> 01:41:45,119
you're going to drop something of

2663
01:41:50,709 --> 01:41:48,159
consequence i think is just good measure

2664
01:41:53,910 --> 01:41:50,719
i think that's something that you do to

2665
01:41:56,950 --> 01:41:53,920
make sure that people are aware to pay

2666
01:41:59,910 --> 01:41:56,960
attention so look people will say crazy

2667
01:42:02,950 --> 01:41:59,920
stuff again i literally it's water off

2668
01:42:05,109 --> 01:42:02,960
the doc's back i don't even read that

2669
01:42:09,109 --> 01:42:05,119
kind of comment anymore it doesn't

2670
01:42:10,629 --> 01:42:09,119
affect me because uh well first of all

2671
01:42:12,310 --> 01:42:10,639
those people don't know you i mean it's

2672
01:42:14,470 --> 01:42:12,320
like the people's opinions on twitter

2673
01:42:16,470 --> 01:42:14,480
it's like crazy i mean it's nice when

2674
01:42:18,070 --> 01:42:16,480
people appreciate what you do but it's

2675
01:42:20,550 --> 01:42:18,080
like none of that affects me i don't

2676
01:42:21,910 --> 01:42:20,560
even go against debunkers anymore

2677
01:42:24,470 --> 01:42:21,920
because they they're they have a

2678
01:42:26,550 --> 01:42:24,480
neurosis so the idea that you tell

2679
01:42:28,310 --> 01:42:26,560
people something is about to drop and by

2680
01:42:30,709 --> 01:42:28,320
the way high noon is the time to always

2681
01:42:32,870 --> 01:42:30,719
drop something i think that's fun and i

2682
01:42:35,430 --> 01:42:32,880
think it's good and i think it serves a

2683
01:42:36,950 --> 01:42:35,440
point that that i think would be easily

2684
01:42:38,629 --> 01:42:36,960
understood if you just thought about it

2685
01:42:40,070 --> 01:42:38,639
for a second

2686
01:42:41,990 --> 01:42:40,080
if you're listening to this on the day

2687
01:42:44,229 --> 01:42:42,000
it drops on the free feeds it came out

2688
01:42:46,709 --> 01:42:44,239
at high noon uk time so just there you

2689
01:42:48,390 --> 01:42:46,719
go jeremy and there we go oh we should

2690
01:42:50,149 --> 01:42:48,400
oh we'll get in trouble if we announce

2691
01:42:51,270 --> 01:42:50,159
that oh yeah

2692
01:42:52,629 --> 01:42:51,280
for letting people know where the

2693
01:42:54,149 --> 01:42:52,639
interview is coming

2694
01:42:56,149 --> 01:42:54,159
it's always high none somewhere in the

2695
01:42:58,870 --> 01:42:56,159
world isn't it and

2696
01:43:01,189 --> 01:42:58,880
final listener question from richard do

2697
01:43:04,629 --> 01:43:01,199
you know any research that is being done

2698
01:43:07,270 --> 01:43:04,639
to try and answer why uaps are here by

2699
01:43:09,030 --> 01:43:07,280
the us government

2700
01:43:11,910 --> 01:43:09,040
is there any research being done by the

2701
01:43:13,109 --> 01:43:11,920
us government about why uaps are here

2702
01:43:15,270 --> 01:43:13,119
yeah

2703
01:43:16,870 --> 01:43:15,280
yes not just not just i think what

2704
01:43:18,790 --> 01:43:16,880
they're getting at is not just what they

2705
01:43:20,790 --> 01:43:18,800
are but they've followed on with that

2706
01:43:23,750 --> 01:43:20,800
luella zondo has said publicly if the

2707
01:43:28,629 --> 01:43:23,760
public know the truth behind uaps it

2708
01:43:31,910 --> 01:43:29,669
yeah

2709
01:43:34,390 --> 01:43:31,920
it might be um i don't know i guess that

2710
01:43:37,430 --> 01:43:34,400
depends on what the truth is and how

2711
01:43:39,430 --> 01:43:37,440
people relate to the truth i i

2712
01:43:41,189 --> 01:43:39,440
again there's a military perspective to

2713
01:43:43,109 --> 01:43:41,199
something and then there's other

2714
01:43:44,790 --> 01:43:43,119
perspectives i don't know the answer to

2715
01:43:46,310 --> 01:43:44,800
that question but

2716
01:43:48,550 --> 01:43:46,320
i do know the answer to the question

2717
01:43:51,109 --> 01:43:48,560
you're asking is there an attempt by our

2718
01:43:52,550 --> 01:43:51,119
military to find out the intent

2719
01:43:55,669 --> 01:43:52,560
why ufos

2720
01:43:58,550 --> 01:43:55,679
uaps are here to begin with and and

2721
01:44:01,669 --> 01:43:58,560
definitively yes that is of course one

2722
01:44:04,870 --> 01:44:01,679
of the primary thrusts but sometimes we

2723
01:44:06,390 --> 01:44:04,880
are uh relegated to just looking at the

2724
01:44:08,629 --> 01:44:06,400
observables right

2725
01:44:11,030 --> 01:44:08,639
so so looking at what we can see these

2726
01:44:13,350 --> 01:44:11,040
craft do it's not like usually they're

2727
01:44:16,310 --> 01:44:13,360
just coming down to have like tea and

2728
01:44:19,510 --> 01:44:16,320
cupcakes with us right so yeah there

2729
01:44:20,629 --> 01:44:19,520
there's a major

2730
01:44:24,709 --> 01:44:20,639
effort

2731
01:44:27,270 --> 01:44:24,719
to attempt to understand the intent and

2732
01:44:31,030 --> 01:44:27,280
perspective of why these encounters have

2733
01:44:33,270 --> 01:44:31,040
been so long why they continue so much

2734
01:44:35,669 --> 01:44:33,280
why there's such a variety of craft and

2735
01:44:37,030 --> 01:44:35,679
by the way of uh occupants of those

2736
01:44:39,350 --> 01:44:37,040
craft

2737
01:44:41,750 --> 01:44:39,360
all of this is the big question

2738
01:44:43,270 --> 01:44:41,760
the big question is not only where

2739
01:44:44,070 --> 01:44:43,280
they're from

2740
01:44:46,550 --> 01:44:44,080
but

2741
01:44:49,030 --> 01:44:46,560
why are they coming here i i make the

2742
01:44:50,709 --> 01:44:49,040
joke do they like our top our top hats

2743
01:44:51,990 --> 01:44:50,719
and our kimonos and our cupcakes i i

2744
01:44:54,390 --> 01:44:52,000
don't know maybe they like our

2745
01:44:57,189 --> 01:44:54,400
psychedelic mushrooms i don't know why

2746
01:44:58,629 --> 01:44:57,199
ufos are here but i will tell you this

2747
01:45:01,430 --> 01:44:58,639
it would take us a week and one

2748
01:45:02,629 --> 01:45:01,440
satellite to map the entire surface of

2749
01:45:04,629 --> 01:45:02,639
the moon

2750
01:45:08,070 --> 01:45:04,639
the ufo phenomenon has come in various

2751
01:45:10,550 --> 01:45:08,080
forms and has been with us for so long

2752
01:45:12,149 --> 01:45:10,560
in such a variety with so many craft in

2753
01:45:15,750 --> 01:45:12,159
such abundance

2754
01:45:18,629 --> 01:45:15,760
clearly this is not a mapping issue this

2755
01:45:21,270 --> 01:45:18,639
is not an unoccupied

2756
01:45:22,870 --> 01:45:21,280
mapping issue that there's something

2757
01:45:25,669 --> 01:45:22,880
else going on

2758
01:45:27,669 --> 01:45:25,679
the ultimate answer i don't know but i

2759
01:45:29,510 --> 01:45:27,679
really hope to find out

2760
01:45:31,350 --> 01:45:29,520
let me ask you this to finish off that

2761
01:45:33,990 --> 01:45:31,360
comment from lula zondo has become

2762
01:45:35,750 --> 01:45:34,000
somewhat famous that he said the what he

2763
01:45:37,830 --> 01:45:35,760
knows is somber

2764
01:45:39,990 --> 01:45:37,840
what you know i'm not going to ask in

2765
01:45:42,229 --> 01:45:40,000
protecting sources and everything else

2766
01:45:48,550 --> 01:45:42,239
what one word would you sum up to you to

2767
01:45:53,350 --> 01:45:50,629
exciting

2768
01:45:54,870 --> 01:45:53,360
i'm excited

2769
01:45:56,470 --> 01:45:54,880
jeremy i'll ask you just to let the

2770
01:45:57,990 --> 01:45:56,480
audience know thank you very much

2771
01:45:59,830 --> 01:45:58,000
obviously for your time what's coming

2772
01:46:02,070 --> 01:45:59,840
next for you

2773
01:46:03,510 --> 01:46:02,080
uh we'll see man it's like day to day i

2774
01:46:06,149 --> 01:46:03,520
think right now i got to talk about take

2775
01:46:09,750 --> 01:46:06,159
my dog for a walk but uh i'm not sure

2776
01:46:11,830 --> 01:46:09,760
what's coming next uh i i do know that

2777
01:46:15,270 --> 01:46:11,840
you are going to be seeing

2778
01:46:17,830 --> 01:46:15,280
more cinema for me more films

2779
01:46:20,229 --> 01:46:17,840
more documentary work and hopefully in

2780
01:46:21,750 --> 01:46:20,239
the form of a series you're also going

2781
01:46:23,430 --> 01:46:21,760
to see

2782
01:46:25,750 --> 01:46:23,440
more footage and reports that i'm going

2783
01:46:27,430 --> 01:46:25,760
to release through social media to make

2784
01:46:28,870 --> 01:46:27,440
sure that everybody can engage that

2785
01:46:31,109 --> 01:46:28,880
information

2786
01:46:33,830 --> 01:46:31,119
look the future is bright i am truly

2787
01:46:36,070 --> 01:46:33,840
excited about the ufo phenomenon i love

2788
01:46:37,910 --> 01:46:36,080
being a part of something where anybody

2789
01:46:40,229 --> 01:46:37,920
can be a part of it anybody can

2790
01:46:42,790 --> 01:46:40,239
contribute and it is an uncharted

2791
01:46:45,510 --> 01:46:42,800
territory we are all in the same boat

2792
01:46:47,350 --> 01:46:45,520
together trying as you use the metaphor

2793
01:46:49,189 --> 01:46:47,360
earlier to get across the ocean right

2794
01:46:51,189 --> 01:46:49,199
we're all trying to see

2795
01:46:54,310 --> 01:46:51,199
you know what this new vista and this

2796
01:46:56,709 --> 01:46:54,320
landscape that we truly live in now but

2797
01:46:58,229 --> 01:46:56,719
we haven't quite understood it what does

2798
01:47:00,310 --> 01:46:58,239
it look like and there's that old saying

2799
01:47:04,149 --> 01:47:00,320
you know you gotta lose sight of the

2800
01:47:05,590 --> 01:47:04,159
shore to discover new land right and

2801
01:47:10,550 --> 01:47:05,600
that's really what we're doing we have

2802
01:47:12,950 --> 01:47:10,560
to abandon these um falsehoods of of

2803
01:47:14,390 --> 01:47:12,960
ridicule about the ufo topic you know it

2804
01:47:17,109 --> 01:47:14,400
has become

2805
01:47:18,629 --> 01:47:17,119
abundantly obvious that the ufos are

2806
01:47:19,990 --> 01:47:18,639
real that they represent a technology

2807
01:47:21,270 --> 01:47:20,000
that's far more advanced than anything

2808
01:47:22,390 --> 01:47:21,280
we've ever displayed in the theater of

2809
01:47:25,109 --> 01:47:22,400
war otherwise

2810
01:47:27,109 --> 01:47:25,119
and so where are we doing now where are

2811
01:47:29,430 --> 01:47:27,119
we right and so this is where we're all

2812
01:47:31,669 --> 01:47:29,440
in this together we need to let go of

2813
01:47:34,070 --> 01:47:31,679
the past and we need to look forward and

2814
01:47:37,030 --> 01:47:34,080
we need to see you know what this new

2815
01:47:39,350 --> 01:47:37,040
landscape is because i truly believe we

2816
01:47:42,310 --> 01:47:39,360
are going to learn more not only about

2817
01:47:44,070 --> 01:47:42,320
the universe but about ourselves if we

2818
01:47:46,149 --> 01:47:44,080
can start to make progress on this and

2819
01:47:47,590 --> 01:47:46,159
we are making progress every day and

2820
01:47:49,189 --> 01:47:47,600
tomorrow we're going to know more than

2821
01:47:51,430 --> 01:47:49,199
we know today everybody should have

2822
01:47:53,430 --> 01:47:51,440
patience but they should be just dogged

2823
01:47:55,510 --> 01:47:53,440
about it fight for it you know ufo

2824
01:47:57,590 --> 01:47:55,520
transparency you know

2825
01:47:59,590 --> 01:47:57,600
that is all for this week's show thank

2826
01:48:01,590 --> 01:47:59,600
you very much for listening please

2827
01:48:04,229 --> 01:48:01,600
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2828
01:48:06,550 --> 01:48:04,239
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2829
01:48:08,470 --> 01:48:06,560
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2830
01:48:10,629 --> 01:48:08,480
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2831
01:48:12,149 --> 01:48:10,639
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2832
01:48:14,629 --> 01:48:12,159
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2833
01:48:17,350 --> 01:48:14,639
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2834
01:48:19,590 --> 01:48:17,360
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2835
01:48:22,390 --> 01:48:19,600
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2836
01:48:25,590 --> 01:48:22,400
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2837
01:48:27,669 --> 01:48:25,600
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2838
01:48:30,750 --> 01:48:27,679
and again folks as always keep looking

2839
01:48:45,109 --> 01:48:30,760
up you never know what you might see

2840
01:48:48,229 --> 01:48:46,390
like alice was playing face for the

2841
01:48:49,910 --> 01:48:48,239
parliament effect the little [\h__\h]

2842
01:48:51,830 --> 01:48:49,920
right inside of my window when i shut

2843
01:48:57,870 --> 01:48:51,840
down the screen he made it an issue i

2844
01:49:39,350 --> 01:49:20,520
[Music]

2845
01:49:56,290 --> 01:49:41,460
scare me

2846
01:50:11,750 --> 01:50:01,430
[Music]

2847
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:15,340
your lies

2848
01:51:01,060 --> 01:50:28,540
[Music]

2849
01:51:09,980 --> 01:51:01,070
it's very smooth